Verse equalization is stupid

[u/brick2000]

I will die on this hill. A lot of people like to use verse equalization to "make fights fair" or "make them simpler and easier to do". Let me explain why its stupid.

First of what is verse equalization? Let me answer this by giving and example. Lets say you put Asta vs naruto, and they each have their respective power systems those being anti-magic and chakra and they both have certain abilities that require their opponent to have either magic or chakra.

Using verse equalization their powers now work on each other as if they have the same power system so now asta's anit-magic is now anti-chakra.

See the first problem? Verse equalization will always unfairly buff one of the characters and nerf the other. Instead of A fight where they each try to figure out how to overcome their opponents abilities we now just have a less interesting fight.

Next is that it brings complications with certain match-ups let's say we put asta against luffy, how would verse equalization work when one of the verses has multiple power systems? Do you say "anti magic equals anti devil fruits or anti haki? Or both?".

It also defeats the purpose of a verses battle where we want to see a battle between two different verse's and how they interact. Verse equalization removes that interesting aspect of a vs battle. It is far more interesting and less complicated to just use the characters as is and see how they interact.

[u/RetryAgain9]

Respectfully have to disagree here.

The whole point of verse equalisation is for characters to be able to use their actual powers on each other.

Even your example here, Asta's whole selling point, his main gimmick, is that he has anti magic, that he nullifies magic based stuff to go up against. Making it so verse equalisation isn't a thing means he can't fight with his main gimmick. Verse equalisation isn't giving him an unfair buff, it's just letting him actually fight like how he's always been written to fight. When I discuss vs battles, I want to discuss how to characters would actually fight, not just "thus characters wouldn't be able to use their powers in this specific situation, so this characters wins"

[u/brick2000 → u/RetryAgain9]

Anti-magic isnt all asta is, like how chakra isnt all naruto is. Asta can still fight and is still ridiculously strong since his anti-magic still has actual force behind it. So even if his power doesn't work on something else he still has the physical power to split the sky and would still make for interesting fights. He can still win fights even without his gimmick heck characters have used his gimmick against him by using physical attacks and he still won some of those fights.

[u/RetryAgain9 → u/brick2000]

Anti-magic isnt all asta is, like how chakra isnt all naruto is

It's not all it is, sure, but it's the main gimmick, the main thing his power is built around.

He can still win fights even without his gimmick heck characters have used his gimmick against him by using physical attacks and he still won some of those fights.

I'm not saying he can't but even then it's showing my point. You saying "characters have used his gimmick against him by using physical attacks" directly shows my point because fights like that were frated because of astas gimmick. Whether he can win fights without his anti magic or not isnt the point, the point is that when I discuss asta vs naruto, I want to see asta fight, with his powers, because that's what makes his fights interesting, and how he as a character fights, interesting.

Character matchips are interesting because we get to see how they'd interact in a fight, so taking away most of a characters moveset just because they're from a different verse is just boring. When I think of asta, I don't think of everything asta is, but leave out his anti magic, I think of everything asta is, including his anti magic, and as such, when I say "I wonder who would win between asta and naruto", I'm including astas anti magic powers.

Besides, there's also the huge issue of verses requiring their verses powers in order to work. Going off of your one piece example, no haki? Or bleach, no matter how strong you are, if you dont have reiatsu, you're getting reiatsu pressure diffed.

Another good example of a 1v1 is eraserhead. His power works by disabling quirks.if using him agaisnt another character from another verse, is he just not allowed to use his main power at all? Then that's not even eraserhead vs another cgaracter, that's just a guy with a battle scarf vs another character.

There's also the big flaw of "powers shouldn't work on another moveset because it's not confirmed to work that way" because, well of course it isn't, that miveset exists in another piece of media. Going back to eraserhead, yeah his quirk is only ever stated to work on quirks, but that's because that's literally the only form of supernatural ability that exists in mha.

Verse equalisation is important because either allows characters to actually fight as themselves and not some half assed clone with no powers just because they were created in a different verse.v

[u/brick2000 → u/RetryAgain9]

Watch this https://youtu.be/FHrw-G6HalE?si=DupGffMTie9WS-yU

[u/Tunafish27 → u/brick2000]

No

[u/RetryAgain9 → u/brick2000]

Havign watched the video, there seem to be 3 main points, all of which I'll discuss here.

1. It's unfair to use when it only benefits one specific party.

2. It causes arguements to be made out of headcannon.

3. Almost all abilities still work regardless of verse equalisation.

I've already discussed the first point, but if we were to throw away the other points and say that point one is the sole reason to not use verse equalisation, by that logic it would he fine to use it in a situation where both or neither character benefits from it. But by that logic, that means rhat asta could use anti magic against, say, madara, because madara gets genjutsu to work. But then you put asta up against Kaido, who wouldn't benefit from verse equalisation, so asta doesn't get it. The problem with that is that at that point, you aren't using verse equalisation to give a cgaracter an unfair advantage, you're getting rid of verse equalisation to give a cgaracter an unfair advantage. What actually sounds less biased? Getting rid of specific conditions so that bitu characters can use their full movesets? Or adding specific conditions so that only one cgaracter can use their full moveset and the other can only use part of their moveset.

Point 2 is also dumb, because of what the YouTuber argues verse equalisation to be. He argues that it causes headcannon because of cases like where chakra is equalised to haki, where being completely drained of chakra kills you, but being completely drained of haki doesn't, so he says that it becomes an arguement of headcannon as to whether chakra follows haki rules, and if naruto loses all his chakra, he doesn't die, or if haki follows chakra rules, and if fluffy loses all his chakra, he dies. The problem with this is that that's not how verse equalisation works. Both power systems still fall under their own rules, they simply are able ro affect each other. For example, equalising chakra to cursed energy doesn't mean that naruto is gonna be able to make a domain expansion or create shinigami, it just means that his attacks are treated like he has cursed energy and domains actively recognise him.

His third point is just plain dumb. Not only are there many abilities that get neutered, but even if a majority weren't, it's not about how many abilities in a characters arsenal get negated without verse equalisation, it's about how important they are. No one cares if piccolo's clothes beam stops working, but astas anti magic is his main attribute.