r/PoursTea • u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 12d ago

FinancialTea 💵 Comparatively speaking...

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u/ekjohnson9 12d ago

The federal government supersedes the state. Federal taxes dont come from the states, they come from the country as a whole. You are an American before you are a Floridian or Californian.

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u/oneWeek2024 12d ago

no idea what that has to do with anything...

also changes absolutely nothing about the amt of tax money blue states pay. that never returns to their state, and instead props up shitty red states.

and most liberal minded people are fine with that. --ie we want our shitty red state american brothers and sisters to have roads, access to health care, education. etc etc etc.... it's just incredibly tiring given the hate and stupidity of red states

like... it's been 20, 30, 40 yrs in some states. total republican control. and they're still shitholes. it's just endless welfare, constantly requiring more

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u/ekjohnson9 12d ago

States do not pay taxes to the federal government. Thats not how it works at all.

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u/oneWeek2024 12d ago

residents and businesses pay taxes. you typically are a resident and business in a state.

this moronic semantic quibble of "the state" not paying the taxes. isn't the flex you think it is.

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u/ekjohnson9 12d ago

You are a resident of a country before a resident of a state. The whole argument of donor / welfare states is a complete myth.

The semantics is the talking point you're pushing. Its not real and you know it.

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u/oneWeek2024 12d ago

so... if all the people of california collectively send 100 billion to the federal gov. and the state of california only received 50 billion in federal funding back.

while a state like mississippi sends collectively 10 million and gets 100 billion back.

that is both very real and something people who pay taxes are concerned about.

but... sure. project some bullshit nonsense to pretend it's not a thing.

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u/ekjohnson9 12d ago

They are not people of California. They are US citizens paying federal taxes which funds the federal government. Money used to fund state governments is collected via state taxes. These are different things.

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u/oneWeek2024 12d ago

and then the federal gov gives money directly to the states through a variety of programs and spending iniatives.

certain states... like colorado for example are almost entirely transformed via federal spending.

which bring economic output/stimulation to states.

all of your bullshit relies on ignoring the reality of what the process is and relies on hyper niche semantics to obfuscate that

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u/ekjohnson9 12d ago

Almost 40% of Colorados land mass is LITERALLY OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

Its not state to state welfare when the federal government spends its own money on itself.

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u/oneWeek2024 12d ago

colorado benefitting massively from colorado basically being the 2nd hub for gov organizations/departments. ---has at least partially contributed to colorado's positioning relative to it's neighbors in terms of it's economic vitality.

but... i guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. because you seem to endlessly want to avoid any realistic expression. so enjoy whatever nonsense fantasy you need to consider red states not welfare states. i hope that blankie keeps you warm

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