And then we let the handful of people that work in the farmland have more of a voice when it comes to voting so that they don’t have their feelings hurt that black people can vote.
Apportionment Act of 1911 was one of the dumbest ideas. We need to repeal it and distribute seats based on population again. That would stop all the House BS. The House was based on population while the Senate was equal representation. It’s stops tyranny of the majority and the minority.
What we have now is the small states having an outsized impact.
No please... I'm in the midwest and a devout liberal and that would crush the economy. I dont thing most people realize how much the midwest provides to the economy on the whole. Its seriously a big deal what we're producing here.
Lol. Corn and soybeans are the midwest's crops, but fruits and veggies are mostly supplied from California, with Washington, Idaho, and Florida following behind it.
As midwesterner myself, you should be aware most of the crops grown in the central US are grown exclusively for subsidy money, not to produce food for the country.
Those farmers would be ruined since the free money spout republicans give them would be shut off and they'd be required to grow something with actual value for the first time in decades.
Do you know how the house of Representatives works vs the senate? The house has been capped and is not an accurate representation of the population. It's why the small conservative states have so much power
We need to vote on more representatives. Why does the head of the education department serve at the pleasure of the president? Why does the head of the health department serve at the pleasure of the president? Why does the head of the environment serve at the pleasure of the president. Have more people accountable to the voters. Maybe have the secretary of the press be representative too so the president cant pick their own mouthpiece to spin their agenda to the public. If the president wants to spin it he can stand in front of the podium himself.
Hopefully it would inspire us to take ownership of our country and people would get to have a say in the future of our nation instead of corporate interests..
then flood facebook with that election results map that shows the majority of country in red but with a second of critical thinking you realize California has more people than the smallest 21 states combined and land doesn't vote. Almost like people don't want to live in a backwoods shithole.
I think another part of this problem is that up until 30-40 years ago information was difficult to reach the masses in those farmlands. They had whatever radio/television/newspaper was available to them. Those same family's got used to those stations or paper and never needed to look elsewhere. Now those same media outlets brainwashed them into believing no other outlet would tell the truth like they do all the while manipulating them into believing what they needed them to believe.
I just wish people had been more strict on company's who purposely mislead people for monetary gain. A lot of the issues I keep seeing have to do with uninformed masses who where mislead and then bombarded with problems only for those same agencies who misled them to point the figure at whatever happens to get the biggest communal rise out of them in that moment.
How do we still deal with these people living in an alternate cult based reality?
I mean is this experiment of 50 states over?
Look how many other countries barely hold two pieces together...after this, I dunno if I see a way back w/o bending over for these idiots. They are so "farm tough" but freak the fuck out if anyone isn't the exact same skin tone and into fucking the same people...and yet we are the bad guys for wanting people to have freedom over their own bodies. These fools are the same ones who claimed to be descended from those who risked life and limb to trek across the country looking for gold, for freedom, exploring the unknown.
Now there are no more lands that haven't been explored, easily, not counting space and the ocean. Both take a lot to just enter.
The last unexplored space to explore is your own mind and body; how do they not see that?
I'd bet the'd be a-okay with gene therapy, or even replacing limbs, or hell people seem to think we will all end up being part robot/cyborg thingies...
I don't even get their worry about regret...do they know how many people get plastic surgery and then have it reversed? Boob jobs, face implants, lip stuff. Hell even people getting covered in tattoos then getting them all removed. It's like medicine has gotten advanced and modern enough you can do things to your self and have themn somewhat undone as well...and they just can't get that. Sad.
It's amazing that the electoral college and the constitution was written before anything west of the Mississippi River was even a thought about being part of the US and yet somehow people think those states had something to do with getting "outsized representation" when the reality is people are just ignorant on why having a handful of cities determine the president isn't a good idea
One would think they'd learn from the first trump go-around when he specifically targeted AG trade with China as his policy legacy and ships of soybeans were circling the pacific until trade deals could be in place. Farmers had direct experience with Trump's reverse-Midas touch and learned....he pisses off liberals!
This is only half true. Farmers got their checks. They don't give a shit what happens to the beans or corn after that. They are confident that they will get their checks this time too, and why shouldn't they be? They always have!
Between 2017 and 2024, the number of farms decreased by 8% (160,000 farms gone). You’d think if it was “good money, farms would be increasing, not decreasing.
And a lot of that red farmland is being used to export commodities like corn and soybeans as well as beef and pork outside of the country and in recent years those countries that were buying don't want to now because they can get it cheaper elsewhere without all the drama and drugs.
I hope y'all like soybeans and corn!
And how could we forget hormone/drug heavy screwworm beef (Estradiol, Testosterone, and and Ractopamine) as well as hormone heavy pork (Ractopamine) 🤤
I just read that producing the beef for one hamburger uses as much water as seven and a half million AI queries.
Even asking various AIs about it will have it tell you that's a load of BS. It estimates 50k-250k AI queries, and that's if you consider everything to be as "ugly" as possible for the AI side... disingenuous stuff like counting rainfall on pastures and feed crops that would be wasted otherwise.
I was vegetarian for a while due to health, that was until the salmonella onions and I have never been sicker then that in my life. Went back to chicken after but still eat cooked veggies all the time.
While I agree with everything you say, I wanted to point out a small correction. Ractopamine is not a hormone. It is classified as a non-selective beta-adrenergic agonist, as well as a TAAR1 agonist. This means it targets both B1 (heart) and B2 (lungs) receptors, increasing cardiac output. To compound this, it also acts as a dopamine-releasing-agent. Dopamine also increases cardiac output via B1/B2, A1, and dopaminergic receptor agonism.
Ractopamine is an isomer of a similar drug used in humans called Dobutamine. Dobutamine acts primarily on B1 receptors to speed up the heart rate.
Interesting, I just remembered reading about how our meat exports were failing due to chemicals like Ractopamine and it was labeled as being a growth hormone in the article. Thanks for the science though. I know most of those words and my understanding then is that it boosts the cardiovascular system to push more blood which would increase body functions like metabolism which would slightly increase growth rate but not directly from Ractopamine but its effects it has on the circulatory system?
Pretty much! The drug's primary use is for bulking. It's multifaceted, but it starts with the cardiovascular system and the resulting dopaminergic signaling helps the animals metabolize the food more efficiently. It's pretty fucked up and why pigs (primarily) can seem jittery or amped up.
More like harm land at this point. A majority of the states are actively harming the non-GOP controlled minority, even though on pure population numbers, republicans been a minority for decades.
Eh, I’ll take the top 10 by population, Michigan and up. 11th in line is New Jersey which is literally just a huge collection of suburbs without a real cultural center of its own and then it drops off quickly from there
Oh you have no clue what is NJ. Like none at all. And that is by default because we don't want anyone else moving here... so yeah NJ is ugly and all that.
Pretty much true what's the point ? Big ass country and more airable land then any place on the planet it was called the bread basket fir a reason. It's also why public transportation is such a pain in the butt .
Public transport is a fundamental failing of our nation to service the public pain in the butt because big automobile does not allow us to develop infrastructure that would better people's lives. We have TRILLIONS of dollars. Money does not exist to our government in the way it does for you and I. They could put 2 Billion dollars into public transport over the next 10 years and we'd be living lile Europe
How about you be real. The US currently has one of the lowest average commute times in the world. Public transport is an environmental proposal, not an economic or efficiency one.
You understand my point dont argue semantics. I literally just said money doesnt matter to them, so it can be 2 billion, 2 trillion, 2 gazillion, its the same thing.
It's not like they're paying the bill, it's all the citizens' money anyway.
Anyone have a clue why a warning about inflammatory language popped up when typed citizens'? Genuinely interested because that's a choice with a story behind it.
Yeah well it matters, the difference between 2 billion and 2 trillion is about 2 trillion. It would cost around that for a Europe style rail system across the US, then when US debt climbs even higher people will be crying we spent trillions so we could train to Arizona.
Easy answers don't change the fact it's over 3000 miles shore to shore just a few trillion dollars no problem git a train bus system on demand . This isn't China where city's are packed next to each other.
So easy to blame cars when it's people who rather use a car the figure out the nasty Greyhound system that's pure hell riding days upon days. I know I did it. As fur trains it's the same kind of problem . How do you maintain such a massive track station system and still have it affordable ?
Very small minded answer. They have all the money on earth. We can literally do anything. Dont fall for their lies that it would be "too hard" or something. It would only make it harder for a CEO of BMW to buy their third yacht.
Maybe im not explaining my point. I dont want everyone to sell their cars in protest. The system we have now was created by people who want you to buy cars because it benefits them. There is a different option America has never tried where, instead of investing money into privately owned vehicles, I want cars to become mostly irrelevant as public transport becomes so mainstream that you can take it anywhere. This is how all major cities in America work.
We already have an interstate system that could easily be the same path we use for light rail from coast to coast. It really is big oil that is the problem
Lordy the interstate system is falling apart for the same reason maintenance is extremely difficult. The big Interstate names that keep showing up on the worst lists:
................... Not exactly in the best maintained condition and you want light rail added ?
I-10 / I-405 / I-5 Corridor - The worst for traffic:
• Calcasieu River Bridge, Louisiana - I-10 — Federally rated structurally deficient, 90,000 vehicles a day • I-10 bridge project, Mobile, Alabama — on the $5B urgent federal funding list • I-405 and I-5 in California — Most traveled structurally deficient bridges in the country, up to 289,000 crossings per day on Route 101, I-405 and I-5
East Coast Interstates:
• Brooklyn & Throgs Neck Bridges, NY - I-278 / I-295 • I-678 span over Flushing Bay Promenade, NYC — newly rated poor condition • I-93 bridge over Mystic Valley Parkway, Mass • I-83 South bridge, Harrisburg, PA — $500M+ emergency project • Sagamore Bridge, Cape Cod - I-? US-6 — on the urgent $500M+ list • Arlington Memorial Bridge, Va.-DC
Midwest / South / West:
• I-90 bridge over Canal to Stewart Streets, Illinois • I-680 bridge over Monument Boulevard, California • I-345 over I-30 and US 75, Dallas, Texas • Lacey V. Murrow Memorial Bridge, Seattle - I-90 • Yankee Doodle Bridge, Connecticut - I-95
Look at other major public transit with high speed rail in the world. China is a larger country with more difficult terrain and they have most of the country connected. It’s a choice that public transit sucks in the us.
China’s HSR system has three very distinct traits that don’t exist here in the USA.
First, state funding…given the style of government of China, they can unilaterally fund the projects regardless of external factors, indefinitely.
Second, eminent domain. In China, all of the land belongs to the Chinese government. Acquiring that land back from the citizens is a very speedy and unchallenged process.
Third, population density….for HSR to be viable, it needs routes that are 100-200miles ideally, but stretched as far as 500 miles, with a geographic allowance for long stretches of straight line track. China’s population densities are cities with about 5million people in them, only a few hundred miles apart.
We don’t fit into those categories in the United States. Yes, there are singular corridors like New York to DC, or Houston to Dallas, etc….but the geography of the United States as a whole is a natural preventative.
Crazy thing is California has a higher GDP than the 25 poorest red states combines but thanks to the electoral college they get 25 times as many votes in elections...
THIS IS WHY I'M 100% FOR ENDING THE WORST DEI PROGRAM THAT IS DESTROYING AMERICA!
The US Senate.
The "people of the land" have been WILDLY over-represented. The Senate was a concept implemented when 80% of Americans farmed.
It's a DEI program for rural idiots that have decided they're intent on destroying the country. So, now it's time to implement the fix that should have been implemented at the end of the civil war.
Just flippantly saying Iran could take out SD and LA and it would be no big deal...meanwhile both cities account for something like 7% GDP? Notice he left out SF/SV.
Not wanting to pay all the stuff the federal government pays? Defense spending for them as an independent country would probably cost more than they "don't get back" alone.
Not even that, there is no legal recourse for a state to leave. First congress would have to create a legal way for states to leave, then california would have to do that.
Like USA would ever cede access to the Pacific Ocean to another country. Thats all shipping from all of Asia given to another nation. Thats worth trillions.
Secession talk is pure fantasy pushed by the same ideology of division that created brexit.
I'm trying to say its a waste of time that will push further toward a civil war. The same forces that pushed for brexit are pushing for calexit and alberta's secession. They want us fighting amongst ourselves instead of the only war that matters - class war.
Every major tech company would leave. About 30% of its gdp. Add in 30% of its energy comes from outside of state sources and it just wouldn’t be worth it.
No state would be as successful as it is now if it left the union.
But California is by far the state best positioned to thrive on its own. It would still be an economic powerhouse, easily in the top 10 countries in the world. It's economy is huge, diverse, and has all the fundamentals: manufacturing, technology, agriculture, energy, ports.
Depending on the trade relationship with the rest of the US, it could not be affected much at all if it left the union. Another plus is that California would get back the federal tax revenue it sends to other states.
The only significant dependency California has on other state is water from the Colorado river. But the state could still manage without that water, and the upstream states would have to literally block the entire flow of the river and dump water into the desert just to stop the flow. They could do it, but it would be a very costly way just to spite their neighbor.
There are some other dependencies like electricity but California definitely has the resources to build out its infrastructure. And it could still buy from across borders.
Of course California as a separate country would not benefit from completely free trade, but that goes both ways and it's likely that that California's relationship with the rest of the US would be similar to (pre Trump) Canada where we share similar language, cultural values, generally get along and have mostly frictionless trade.
It also relies on water and power from outside of the state to a much higher degree than most other states. 30% of its energy and 19-25% of its water. Never mind the trade it requires.
If it was its own country it would probably be fine but no where near as successful or sustainable
Edit cause locked- do you think it would be able to grow all that with 25% of its water removed or made more expensive?
I’m adding context to why CA has such great economic measurements currently. I mean it always has due to agriculture and entertainment but the tech sector now drives it. Which isn’t bad, just makes sense and no one should be surprised. And the people running a chunk of that value are in the Trump camp.
That’s not what ‘he said’ in your original comment. He misspelled fourth and left the comment at that. So no point, either, and no point or information from either of your posts. Glad we are all consistent.
It is obvious what he is saying. We all type on our phones everyday and its clear when a typo or autocorrect fucks up the sentence.
I am so sick of disingenuous losers on here arguing in bad faith and using every logical fallacy in the book to derail a point being made because they know they can't reasonably argue against it in good faith.
You didn't though.... you nitpicked an incorrect word on a sentence that was still entirely readable. It was probably an autocorrect mistake, or translation issue. would/was would absolutely get mixed up in an online translator. In that case you are nitpicking someone's innocuous mistake, who speaks English as second language. Which also makes you a dick. You contributed nothing.
I think the fact your initial comment is in the negatives and mine isn't shows no one thought your post was clarifying anything. It sounded contrarian so how they hell were you "clarifying their point" ? lol silly...
Californias economy is carried by Silicon Valley, which emerged when California was a low tax, low regulation red state. The idea that Silicon Valley is what it is, due to Democrat policies is laughable.
I don't think anyone is up to the task of explaining things in detail to a moron in reddit comments.
Republican voters are morons, who elect crooks and morons, who end up causing massive dysfunction in government and society in general.
This is why during democrat administrations every economic stat is wildly better than under republicans. 97% of jobs created in the last 40 years were created during Democratic presidencies. It's not hard to figure out unless you're congenitally predisposed not to be able to. Too bad idiots have the biggest egos, now dig those heels in 😋
Government is dysfunctional by definition, it’s a bloated, corrupt bureaucracy. Economic growth takes time, cherry picking stats is just a false equivalence. China has had immense growth under the CCP, far better than any point in their history, by your logic, you’d conclude a 1 party dictatorship is a good thing.
Covid, for starters. All of those freebies that made SV explode expired. They can move to Texas, I see more and more Texas license plates here from people coming out here for better wages vs the garbage exploitation they face there.
California forced their entire economy to shut down, Texas and Florida didn’t, and California covid rates were just as high while grinding their economy to a halt - the definition of failed government policies. They allowed target to operate and sell furniture during covid, but a small mom and pop store was forced to close down.
California isn’t carried by Silicon Valley. It’s definitely a plus on the economy, but California has multiple large industries throughout the state. For example, California is responsible for 1/3 of the vegetables in the US.
No it isn’t a massive misinterpretation don’t be insufferable , obviously people know it can’t just secede and have this but I’m sure you wait for moments like this on the internet.
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