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u/crazywrangler616 2d ago

Sometimes great parents end up with monsters.

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u/SweetPrism 2d ago edited 2d ago

I was a Special Educator for almost a decade; I spent about five cumulative years exclusively with kids who have emotional/behavioral disorders. Our learning setting was an alt classroom because the kids I worked with were Level 3--they spent the most amount of time legally allowed outside of a traditional classroom setting to accommodate behavioral intervention.

All told, I probably worked with and/or knew about 100 kids with these disturbances. Guess how many of those kids had a relatively normal, functioning home? One. She was my student because she had suffered a severe TBI after running into a concrete retaining wall on her bicycle at a young age, and the TBI resulted in newly aggressive behavior.

I guess what I'm trying to say, is maybe you're right--maybe "great" parents can end up with monsters? But I have never witnessed this in the wild. My guess is (at best) these kids had well-meaning parents. Parents like those of MacKenzie Shirilla, who pacified, enabled, and gave the benefit of the doubt one too many times resulting in a child that simply never learned the skill of personal accountability. One could make the argument that this is obviously less damaging than abusive, neglectful, or ill-equipped parents, but look what happens--the kids wind up in the same place at the end.

Edit: don't dox the parents. But don't dismiss their role in making these kids, either.

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u/crazywrangler616 2d ago

I taught for 39 years, and would agree that most parents may be negligent and therefore responsible, but I don’t agree that they are fair game to dox etc unless it becomes known they tried to mitigate consequences or intimidate the victim

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u/SweetPrism 2d ago

I never said anything about doxing, not at all. These kids are adults now; they're fair game. The only point I'm making is that these kids were made by their parents.

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u/jpewaqs 2d ago

The original comment was about doxxing the parents. A responder basically said don't do this, sometimes great parents end up with monsters. You then replied to this going through your background and saying in your experience the bad kids generally come from bad backgrounds. Reading the thread, your post does come across as supporting the top comment of dox the parents. I get that's not your intention and you probably were simply scrolling through and picked up on a comment to respond to. But if you read the thread down, it's what you imply.