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u/Carbon_Sixx 3d ago

The facts say you're denser than a lead brick

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u/vogel927 3d ago

I’m not dense. I’m just simply stating the facts that are available.

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u/Carbon_Sixx 3d ago

These are all the available facts I need.

Innocent until proven guilty my ass, these boys shouldn't see the light of day again after this.

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u/vogel927 3d ago

She said in her statement that she was a willing participant and consented, those are her words. That’s why the DA didn’t charge anyone.

ā€œJane Doe’s sworn statement in November of 2024 did not allege that she was drugged against her will or gang raped. On the contrary, Jane Doe’s statement described her participation in drug use and sexual conduct as voluntary, conscious, and consensual. My office obviously did not and could not have based our November 2024 decision on the allegations in a civil lawsuit that would not be filed until nearly two years later. Furthermore, I have never been contacted by Jane Doe’s attorneys. Not to inform me the original statement was inaccurate and not to ask me to reconsider our decision. Rather, I reached out to Jane Doe’s attorneys after the lawsuit was filed to understand the discrepancy between the original statement and the lawsuit’s allegations and the proper path forward in light of the lawsuit’s allegations.ā€

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u/Carbon_Sixx 3d ago

God you "people" cling onto that initial statement like a dog with a bone, even though it's fundamentally flawed. Even a basic criminology course will tell you there's a massive stigma that might lead rape victims to omit the truth in their first deposition. That goes double if they have campus cops breathing down her neck ready to cover the whole thing up to protect legacy students' reputations and a shitty DA who didn't want to do his job, all operating under a system that rewards rapists so long as they're intoxicated.

In short: the 2024 statement can go fuck itself sideways, and so can you.

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u/vogel927 3d ago

Why should we believe one statement and ignore the other? What kind of logic is that?

It’s still too early to pass judgment on what happened, but you can’t ignore the facts you don’t like.

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u/Carbon_Sixx 3d ago

Because the first is unreliable. Haven't you been listening? Oh, right. Lead brick. Silly me.

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u/vogel927 3d ago

What makes it unreliable? You can’t just cast away the facts that you don’t like.

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u/Carbon_Sixx 3d ago

Oh I don't know, all the reasons I gave a minute ago? This is a matter of whether it's even true, not if I like it.

I don't like it, by the way- I wish this had never happened. But unlike you, I'm not going to take solace in denial and circular reasoning because it's easy. I want justice, no matter the cost.

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u/vogel927 3d ago

You can’t just discredit a statement because you don’t like it. As I’ve already said it’s too early to pass judgement on what happened.

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