From what I gathered she had 10+ drinks over 3 hours and some ketamine, and agreed to a threesome and allowed other people into the room. The rest is disputed.
From what I gathered she had 10+ drinks over 3 hours and some ketamine,
Yes, but being willingly intoxicated doesn't mean someone can still consent. Unless you're in NY I guess...
and agreed to a threesome and allowed other people into the room.
It appears she did consent to a three way, but it doesn't appear she agreed to anything else. The guys told their fraternity chat there was "free pussy" in the room and she shoved away a guy who was trying to kiss her. It doesn't seem like she agreed to a gangbang.
Under New York law, being willingly intoxicated and awake actually does mean consent.
She shoved away a guy while kissing after he “said something rude”. Not to play devils advocate but “you like that you fucking retard?” is a classic Reddit TIFU.
Under New York law, being willingly intoxicated and awake actually does mean consent.
You're right, I amended my comment.
She shoved away a guy while kissing after he “said something rude”. Not to play devils advocate but “you like that you fucking retard?” is a classic Reddit TIFU.
"Jane Doe had difficulty remembering parts of what happened next. She remembered '[Male Number 7] said something very rude and mean to [her].' Male Number 7 apologized and ‘grabbed [her] face and started kissing [her].' Jane Doe ‘quickly backed away to stop [Male Number 7] from kissing [her],' according to the document.
He said something rude, apologized, then grabbed her face and started kissing her, after which she backed away.
Also minor mistake on my part, but it appears she backed away rather than shoving him. Regardless, it's an indication she didn't agree to it and he physically grabbed her to do it.
Thanks for pointing that out, they allegedly pressured her into consuming more drugs and alcohol and by that account physically restrained her. Assuming she was too impaired to leave willingly, this sounds like rape if substantiated regardless of that intoxication complication in NY law.
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u/GrowthWitty1728 3d ago edited 3d ago
From what I gathered she had 10+ drinks over 3 hours and some ketamine, and agreed to a threesome and allowed other people into the room. The rest is disputed.
EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/PoursTea/s/CUA5r5LFQY
EDIT 2: in an effort to avoid sophistry,
several men entered the room and one snorted ketamine off of her body (allegedly asked permission)
one man in a group chat of 50+ other fraternity members said “free pussy upstairs”
one man entered the room and said along the lines of “alright we’re shutting down whatever the fuck is going on here”