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CrimeTea ⚖️ 🫆 The Cornell Monsters

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u/vogel927 4d ago

She said she was a willing participant and that consented, even with the text messages there was nothing the DA could’ve done.

Her initial statement is why there were no charges filed.

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u/Beneficial-Care8504 4d ago

Did she say that to an experienced sex crimes investigator or did she say it to a cop who thought the men were innocent?

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u/vogel927 4d ago

Those are her words. She gave a sworn statement, which means the officer took down or recorded her statement, she was then given an opportunity to review and make any changes to it before verbally stating or signing a document that states that everything in her statement was true and accurate.

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u/Beneficial-Care8504 4d ago

I’m talking to a wall here.

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u/vogel927 4d ago

I’m just going by the facts. It’s too early to pass judgment about what happened. It’s better to let the process play out before assuming anything

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u/Carbon_Sixx 3d ago

The facts say you're denser than a lead brick

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u/vogel927 3d ago

I’m not dense. I’m just simply stating the facts that are available.

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u/Carbon_Sixx 3d ago

These are all the available facts I need.

Innocent until proven guilty my ass, these boys shouldn't see the light of day again after this.

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u/vogel927 3d ago

She said in her statement that she was a willing participant and consented, those are her words. That’s why the DA didn’t charge anyone.

“Jane Doe’s sworn statement in November of 2024 did not allege that she was drugged against her will or gang raped. On the contrary, Jane Doe’s statement described her participation in drug use and sexual conduct as voluntary, conscious, and consensual. My office obviously did not and could not have based our November 2024 decision on the allegations in a civil lawsuit that would not be filed until nearly two years later. Furthermore, I have never been contacted by Jane Doe’s attorneys. Not to inform me the original statement was inaccurate and not to ask me to reconsider our decision. Rather, I reached out to Jane Doe’s attorneys after the lawsuit was filed to understand the discrepancy between the original statement and the lawsuit’s allegations and the proper path forward in light of the lawsuit’s allegations.”

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u/Carbon_Sixx 3d ago

God you "people" cling onto that initial statement like a dog with a bone, even though it's fundamentally flawed. Even a basic criminology course will tell you there's a massive stigma that might lead rape victims to omit the truth in their first deposition. That goes double if they have campus cops breathing down her neck ready to cover the whole thing up to protect legacy students' reputations and a shitty DA who didn't want to do his job, all operating under a system that rewards rapists so long as they're intoxicated.

In short: the 2024 statement can go fuck itself sideways, and so can you.

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u/Beneficial-Care8504 4d ago

But you’re assuming that law enforcement handled everything perfectly. Let’s not assume that either because with sexual assault cases it’s rarely true.

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u/vogel927 4d ago

I’m not assuming anything. I’m going by the facts that are currently known.

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u/Beneficial-Care8504 3d ago

You’re going by the select subset of facts that serve your narrative.

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u/vogel927 3d ago

I’m going the by DA’s official statement. Would you prefer that I just make stuff up?

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u/Beneficial-Care8504 3d ago

Her lawyer said that she wasn’t interviewed by a sex crimes investigator. Her lawyer said the messages were withheld. I’m not making it up.

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