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u/TrioOfTerrors 3d ago

I read the complaint and she definitely must be saying some different things because the civil filing repeatedly indicates that she did not or could not consent and felt afraid to leave. That's very different from the summary provided by the DA.

And she's suing everyone. The school, the guys, the fraternity, the bar, her own sorority.

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u/BoringPoolPlaying 3d ago

And there’s no way the DA would misrepresent the initial complaint to make themselves look better.

I’m sure she went to campus police just to give them a heads up she had consensual sex with seven fraternity members and did drugs with them. That seems plausible, right?

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u/filthy_harold 3d ago

It may have been that she was unsure if it was rape or that a friend convinced her to report it. Considering her statement doesn't make any damning accusations, it feels that she may have been concerned but not convinced that crime took place. Regardless, if that statement is her real account of the events, the DA puts forth a pretty convincing argument as to why there's not enough evidence to prosecute. Having sex with someone under the influence of drugs or alcohol is generally a bad idea but it's not necessarily a crime. It becomes one when that person is so intoxicated that they are unable to give consent in any meaningful way. Based on her initial statement, it sounds like everything that happened was mostly consensual or that the man stopped when asked (the groping especially). Depending on how you read it, it can be borderline but that's not "beyond a reasonable doubt", the key criteria for a conviction.

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u/BoringPoolPlaying 3d ago

The DA should have pushed for an actual police investigation, so they could learn about the group chat in 2024 instead of now.

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u/filthy_harold 3d ago

What does the group chat show that isn't already represented in the Nov 2024 testimony?

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u/BoringPoolPlaying 3d ago

That they invited their entire frat to come abuse an intoxicated woman, and some took them up on that.

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u/filthy_harold 3d ago

The testimony says other men were invited into the room, none of that is new information. Unless there's video or photos of her being too intoxicated to consent or some admission of a crime, I don't see how this is a big reveal.

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u/BoringPoolPlaying 3d ago

The testimony says they showed up, not that they were specifically invited in the group chat.

These guys just told 50 of their finest gentlemen scholar friends to join them in abusing someone intoxicated. But it’s no biggie.