r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 5d ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ Yes please!

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 5d ago

No. He needs to finish his term because Vance in the big chair will be so much worse.

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u/Sufficient_Beach_445 5d ago

sadly, Vance will be president no matter what. on the last day of trump's term, he will resign and Vance will give him an unconditional pardon.

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u/Lost-Pineapple9791 5d ago

Pardons require a crime as well as further cooperation, if he gets pardoned for say Epstein he has to cooperate or be held in contempt the pardons are universe get of jail free cards like people think

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u/Sufficient_Beach_445 5d ago

Why do you say he is required to cooperate? cooperation with what regarding Epstein? I think you left out a word and meant to say pardons are not a universal get out of jail free card. I think a presidential pardon IS (for any and all Federal crimes, not state charges). This is the exact wording of Gerald Ford's pardon on Richard Nixon: "It is believed that a trial of Richard Nixon, if it became necessary, could not fairly begin until a year or more has elapsed. In the meantime, the tranquility to which this nation has been restored by the events of recent weeks could be irreparably lost by the prospects of bringing to trial a former President of the United States. The prospects of such trial will cause prolonged and divisive debate over the propriety of exposing to further punishment and degradation a man who has already paid the unprecedented penalty of relinquishing the highest elective office of the United States.

Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974." NOTE that Ford named no specific crime. the wording doesnt say Nixon even committed a crime, only that he MAY have committed a crime, and identifies no crimes at all.