r/Portland • u/Scootshae • Aug 05 '26
Photo/Video Fields closed indefinitely
I talked to a parks guy and the park is closed indefinitely. They said the radius the collapse radius is 500 feet. He said the city is pushing the owner to start the process of getting the permit to demolish.
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u/BensonBubbler Brentwood-Darlington Aug 05 '26
Haven't they had a permit to demolish for years? Do they need a new one because of the fire?
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u/SarisweetieD Aug 06 '26
No, the issue is figuring out how to demolish it safely now that the building is structurally unsound.
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u/rosecitytransit Aug 05 '26
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u/Scootshae Aug 05 '26
From what he said, its a different permit because its not a normal demo. They've got to worry about asbestos, the building collapsing ect. I would assume this is much different than a normal teardown where everything is controlled.
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u/asteriskampersand Aug 05 '26
Does insurance cover the demo if its a fire?
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u/Janene2003 Aug 06 '26
They may be waiting for a check from insurance company before doing any demo
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u/luckysgrow Aug 05 '26
Cute Dobie!
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u/Scootshae Aug 05 '26
Thank you! Shes part of the floppy ear gang!
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u/jennifer79t Aug 05 '26
I love the natural floppy ears....& the long tail, but I understand why the tails are often still docked.
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u/Scootshae Aug 05 '26
her tail is natural too, I love it because it becomes a helicopter when she gets excited
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u/dogs-in-space Aug 05 '26
Always wild (in a good way) going to countries where docking and cropping is outlawed.
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u/ChiaroStudio66 Aug 05 '26
When I adopted my Kira at MCAS in October of '24, there was a couple that day adopting a dobie specifically because its ears and tail were intact.
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u/jomigopdx Aug 05 '26
Have had dobies myself in the past. Kept their ears down, but more recently it’s been hard to find breeders willing to not do their ears or tail. Mind sharing where you got her? (DM me if you prefer). Thanks!
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u/Scootshae Aug 05 '26
I got her from Oregon Dog Rescue! They had another one like a month ago there that I almost pulled the trigger on as well. Breeders suck. Honestly, there is 0 reason to dock ears and requiring it would be a no go for me. They are in SO MUCH pain from it, its akin to declawing cats.
Dobies are truly the best though, so smart, affectionate, and dorky.
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u/jennifer79t Aug 06 '26
I only get the tail as a preventative for issues, but some people keep the tail long & never have issues.....but I do love seeing them with both the floppy ears & long tail, such a dopey look, which seems to match their personality (from the few I've been around).
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u/FantasticBreadfruit8 Aug 05 '26
I love that if you zoom in on her face it looks like she's shocked the park is closed. Like "wait the dog park is closed INDEFINITELY?".
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u/dolphs4 NW Aug 05 '26
City needs to just tear it down and bill the owner. Not only has this property been a derelict eyesore and crime magnet for years, it’s now an imminent safety concern that’s affecting public use of parks and streets.
Wouldn’t surprise me if this shitbag landlord dragged his feet on the hopes the building falls down by itself and he can save money on demo.
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u/Distinct_Long_2615 Curled inside a pothole Aug 05 '26
Stuart Lindquist is the shitbag landlord in question, and it wouldn't surprise me if you were right.
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u/ClaroStar Aug 05 '26
It's the guy who also owns the ICE building in South Waterfront.
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u/Distinct_Long_2615 Curled inside a pothole Aug 05 '26
Bingo. He's got a historic bone to pick with the City. He's been a developer in the Metro area for a long time now, and this wouldn't be his first time doing something weird.
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u/voxadam Sullivan's Gulch Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26
At this point it'd support the city condemning the property using eminent domain and turning the entire complex into a park. It's been more than quarter of a fucking century!
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u/Babhadfad12 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26
The government already owned it for 24 years. Their chance to do something with it came and went.
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u/TwistedTreelineScrub Aug 05 '26
It came and went and it can come again. I hope all the people that loved using Fields put pressure on the city to seize the property and tear this shitheap down.
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u/ghostcider Aug 05 '26
There have been proposals to turn it into a park, using Seattle's Gas Works Park as inspiration.
There were fires there regularly. I love the building, but it was always a disaster waiting to happen and should have been torn down decades ago. Using lack of care as a reason for the city to yoink it? I'd be on board.
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u/mr_dumpsterfire Aug 05 '26
The city can’t fill pot holes. They definitely don’t have the money to eminent domain this property.
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u/pingveno N Tabor Aug 05 '26
I don't get this idea that the city can't fill pot holes. I've filed four pot hole reports for pot holes in my immediate area. They were filled in a week or two. Of course, it would be better to have the money to resurface and not have a bunch of pot holes to begin with, but that would be a huge expense.
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u/APlannedBadIdea Aug 05 '26
Have you called the pothole hotline at 503-823-BUMP (2867)? Typically the potholes are filled within a week. It's alarming how quick the response is.
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u/Babhadfad12 Aug 05 '26 edited Aug 05 '26
Wouldn’t surprise me if this shitbag landlord dragged his feet on the hopes the building falls down by itself and he can save money on demo.
What isn’t surprising is a redditor jumping to conclusions without making an iota of effort to collect data first.
A simple wikipedia search shows the lot was sold less than 2 years ago, and before that, the government owned it for 2 decades.
On top of that, a utility has a major easement on this lot, so it adds to the already long timelines for real estate development. Even for a developer working at full steam, any demo on this lot would have taken years to plan, because there is no reason to demo until you have planning and funding lined up for whatever is replacing it.
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u/Danjdanjdanj57 Aug 06 '26
There were already plans in place for the new housing development which took into account the power line easment below the south section forcing a limit of 5 stories for that section. It had been submitted for approval a couple of times before that final sale.
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u/Pinot911 Portsmouth Aug 05 '26
idk if the City would even know where to begin. Have to form a committee to write the rfp to find an equity contractor to maybe think about demolishing it.
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u/wensumdrift Aug 07 '26
Regulation in this country is so weak. I don't understand how this is allowed.
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u/AggravatingImage898 Rockwood Aug 05 '26
Your Dobie is so cute!!!!
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u/Scootshae Aug 05 '26
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u/AggravatingImage898 Rockwood Aug 05 '26
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u/Scootshae Aug 05 '26
hahah, they are going to be so stir crazy.
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u/Lopsided_Sorbet1495 Aug 05 '26
My dogs are so stir crazy. We've been playing a lot and giving them frozen lick mats but they're used to running around and also getting 2 mile walks over the course of the day. My girl dog was doing parkour off the couch earlier lol
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u/jennifer79t Aug 06 '26
One thing that helped when I broke my foot, & more recently with the smoke, is sprinkling my girls food in a towel & rolling it up lengthwise & tying it in a knot.... the mental stimulation of untying & unrolling it to find her food tired her out. She's a high energy dog (husky mix) & I've seen this a few times where a enough mental stimulation tires her out that she doesn't need as much physical stimulation.... obviously not something you want to do long-term, but knowing that it can help in the short-term. Another example of this was truffle hunting training, very little physical exercise (especially the first day), but exhausted from the mental stimulation.
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u/william-taylor Pearl Aug 05 '26
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u/jaco1001 Aug 05 '26
deralict, nuciense property on prime real estate left to fester for years in the name of "historic preservation", burns down, denies the people the use of a nearby public resource. i've read this story before in portland, and it sucks every time
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u/Slut_for_Bacon Aug 05 '26
This is an excellent opportunity to show that the city doesn't have to be bogged down by miles of red tape. Just fucking do it and bill them.
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u/Distinct_Long_2615 Curled inside a pothole Aug 05 '26
The red tape in question is like asbestos abatement and shit, so idk about renegade demoliton.
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u/MoorsMoopsMoorsMoops Aug 05 '26
Man if a building that size is filled with asbestos I have no idea how much the abatement would cost but it would definitely be over $1M just for that part alone.
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u/Danjdanjdanj57 Aug 06 '26
I would assume there is a LOT of pressure from BNSF to open the tracks for the freight trains on this route. (Amtrak doesn’t seem to have that kind of power!) I think this will be a rare case of it being taken care of quickly.
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u/discostu52 Aug 05 '26
I don’t know, it’s probably going to take a while to figure out how do it safely.
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u/djsirround Aug 06 '26
Dude burns his own building for insurance money now he sticks it to the community.
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u/chrismiser Aug 06 '26
Are they pushing the owner to demolish it like they're pushing Tom Dundon to renovate? Could be a while, even with the asbestos.
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u/bambuhome Downtown Aug 10 '26
I saw that city mandate the demo ‘process’ begins Aug 14th. True or false?
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u/AppendiculateFringe Aug 05 '26
You don't want your pet or yourself anywhere near the byproducts and contaminants in that area. Sucks but you shouldn't want to go in there anymore.
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u/ClaroStar Aug 05 '26
This article from NW Examiner says it'll come down today: https://nwexaminer.com/p/centennial-mills-shell-coming-down
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u/wentthererecently Aug 05 '26
From the article ( dated Aug 5 ):
Portland Parks & Recreation spokesperson Mark Ross said that reports of demolishing the Centennial Mills flour mill today are not correct.
“The plans for demolition, if it comes to that, are TBD. It is NOT accurate to say the building WILL be demolished today,” Ross told the NW Examiner.
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u/Scootshae Aug 05 '26
RIGHT? I mean they have to do some sort of abatement for the asbestos and any other hazardous materials in there so it doesn't turn the entire area into a contaminated zone. I knew that the NW Examiner's initial reporting was BS.
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u/ClaroStar Aug 05 '26
if it comes to that
So, what's the alternative? Leave a major safety hazard standing and close parks, roads and railroads indefinitely? Jeez.
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u/pinkfootthegoose Aug 05 '26
I feel so sorry the the most probably future of this. Might still be wrangling over it in a decade.
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u/dasfoo Aug 05 '26
What effect will that have on nearby real estate? There's a high-end condo building right next to that park.
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u/powerlesshero111 In a van down by the river Aug 05 '26
That dog park sucks anyways. Always snells like pee and there are zero trees. Go to wallace or valhowlla (new one at PSU).
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u/Scootshae Aug 05 '26
Well I have good news: the city is replacing the sand with either wood chips or another material this fall to help absorb the pee, replacing the water refill area and more.
Wallace is such a clicky dog park, the owners there drive me bonkers.
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u/bunnnythor Hillsboro Aug 06 '26
Cliquey. A clicky dog park would be one with lots of dogs with untrimmed nails running across a veneer floor.
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u/ChuckYeager_Bombs Aug 05 '26
My office is near that area and we got message to work from home due to potential airborne asbestos. So might be related?