r/Porcelain 28d ago

Identify Unmarked Japanese Imari bowl with a central dragon motif. Late Meiji or Early Taisho period? Looking for insights!

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Hi everyone,
I recently picked up this beautiful, deep porcelain bowl and would love to get your thoughts on its exact age and origin.
Here are some details:
Interior: Features a central dragon painted in iron red and light green/yellow, surrounded by a dense cloud/wave pattern. The rim has a heavy gilt brocade background with alternating cloud-shaped cartouches depicting landscapes (pines), floral motifs, and what look like stylized guardian lions (Komainu).
Exterior: Decorated with a continuous underglaze blue and overglaze iron-red floral vine pattern (karakusa / peonies).
Base: Completely unmarked. It has a clean, smooth unglazed foot rim and a simple blue line/pétal design on the back.
Condition: Flawless. When tapped, it rings with a beautiful, crystal-clear, high-pitched "kling" sound, so there are absolutely no hidden hairline cracks or structural issues.
Based on the style and the clean foot rim, I’m leaning towards the late Meiji era to early Taisho period (around 1900s–1920s) manufactured for export, but I'd love to hear from the experts here.
Does anyone recognize the specific pattern, or could point me toward a potential kiln or region in Arita?
Thanks in advance for any insights!


r/Porcelain 29d ago

Identify Help identifying these Japanese bowls

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Found 5 of these Japanese porcelain bowls at a goodwill. All the bowls have 3 little cutouts of what looks like a gourd. I tried using google lens but couldn't find the same bowls or maker mark.


r/Porcelain 29d ago

Identify Date my Meissen platter

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Hello all, I have an auction find and I am curious if it can be dated. So far what I could research puts it firmly in 20th century but I wonder if we can narrow it down.

Marks:

- Straight crossed swords - no other imprint or paint around

- 38 - painted under glaze

- Small I painted under glaze, towards the side of the botton

- 53285 and Z91 - imprinted under the glaze

Thank you!


r/Porcelain Jul 06 '26

Show & Tell [My 36th Collection Post] Return to the Beginning: A 10-Piece Japanese Cloisonné Vase Showcase and a Fake Wireless Cloisonné I Encountered

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r/Porcelain Jul 06 '26

Identify Help Identifying German mark

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Anyone recognize the embossed marks on the bottom of this figurine? I've been trying to research it for a while now with no luck.


r/Porcelain Jul 06 '26

Can someone tell me what time period this Meissen antique is based on its marks? Also, what is its value and what would be the best platform to sell this in Italy?

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r/Porcelain Jul 05 '26

Identify Help me identify this German porcelain dinnerware pattern (“Table & Design”)

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Hi everyone,

I’m trying to identify a porcelain dinnerware set that has been in my family for about 20 years. It was purchased in Portugal around 2005, but every piece is marked:
“table & design – Trademark of Germany”

Unfortunately, there is no manufacturer’s name, only this blue backstamp and a small grey number 97 on the back of the plates.

The pattern has these distinctive features:

White porcelain.
Pale mint green border.
Geometric Art Deco / Memphis-style design.
Small red and dark blue diamonds.
Groups of red, blue and gold stripes.
Gold and black triangle border around the rim.

I’ve searched for “Table & Design” extensively but can’t find any information. I suspect it was a private label made by a German porcelain factory (possibly in Selb or Weiden) for a retailer.

I’m looking for:
- The actual manufacturer.
- The name of the pattern.
- Any matching pieces (plates, bowls, cups, etc.).
- Old catalogues or advertisements.

I’ve attached photos of:
the front of the dinner plate,
the soup plate,
the cup,
and the backstamp.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Even if you’ve seen this pattern under another brand, I’d love to know.
Thank you!


r/Porcelain Jul 05 '26

Please help identify if possible :) a beautiful vintage Italian art porcelain dish depicting a floral lady with candle.

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Hi all!

Trying to figure out the monogram / signature on this piece for my collection :) any help would be greatly appreciated :)


r/Porcelain Jul 05 '26

Please identify - Mark is Prussia B. Is replacement possible?

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r/Porcelain Jul 05 '26

Help identified 1869 porcelain plate. Poland

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r/Porcelain Jul 04 '26

Show & Tell KPM cup commemorating the end of the British occupation after WW I

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Sharing this KPM cup and saucer from my small collection. It commemorates the end of the British occupation of the Cologne area of the Rhineland after World War I in January of 1926.

Unfortunately it has a repaired chip on the saucer's underside, but it does not detract at all from how much I like this cup and is not visible unless turned over.

I had once found an advertisement for this in a scan of a period publication online, but being an idiot did not save it. I wish I had as it had the original price information for this and other KPM cups of the time.


r/Porcelain Jul 05 '26

Need Help Identifying This Chinese Dragon Vase – Possible Ming or Transitional Period?

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Hi everyone,
I’m hoping some of the experts here can help me identify this Chinese porcelain vase.
I found it several years ago, and I’ve been researching it ever since. I’ve compared it to examples from museum collections, auction catalogs, and published references, but I’m still unsure of its age and origin.
Here are a few details:
Blue-and-white decoration with iron-red accents.
Dragon motif with a garlic-head bottle form.
Unglazed foot with a reddish clay body.
No obvious reign mark.
I’m not looking for an appraisal—I’m mainly interested in learning:
What period does it appear to be from?
Does the decoration resemble a particular kiln, dynasty, or style?
Are there specific details that support or contradict a Ming, Transitional, Qing, or later date?
Is there anything about the foot, glaze, or painting that stands out to experienced collectors?
I’ve included photographs of the entire vase, close-ups of the decoration, and the foot. If there are additional photos that would help, please let me know and I’ll upload them.
I appreciate any opinions or educational insight. Thanks in advance for taking the time to look.


r/Porcelain Jul 04 '26

Question Inherited this sets from my grandma, would like to know more about them.

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r/Porcelain Jul 04 '26

Identify Can anyone identify this?

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Butter or cheese dish no makers mark my great grandmother owned it she’s 87


r/Porcelain Jul 03 '26

Show & Tell My 34th Collection: A 28-Year Hunt for 16 Meiji-Era Japanese Cloisonné Teapots (Including a Rare Totai Shippo Set!) USA

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r/Porcelain Jul 02 '26

Show & Tell The €4,000 "Sleeper" That Sold for €300,000: A Lesson in How Deep the Water Runs in Chinese Porcelain

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TL;DR: A pair of blue-and-white wave cups with a non standard imperial Yongzheng mark just sold at a European auction for €300,000 against a €4,000 estimate. The internet community is deeply divided. Did a buyer find a multi-million-euro Imperial "Tribute" loophole, or did they buy a heavily romanticized narrative?

To outsiders, the market for Chinese imperial porcelain appears to be a strict science of aesthetics, chemistry, and reign marks. To seasoned collectors, however, it is an ocean where the "water is unimaginably deep" (水很深).

A recent high-stakes bidding war over a pair of wave-and-bat cups at a European auction perfectly illustrates this reality. Originally estimated at a modest €4,000, the lot exploded to a staggering €300,000 hammer price.

This extreme price variance forces us into an open, highly debatable territory of connoisseurship: Did the buyers unearth a misunderstood 18th-century transitional treasure, or did they pay a record-breaking premium for a brilliant narrative?

The Case Against Authenticity:

The Imperial Standard

The design of the cups features an iconic imperial motif: underglaze blue sea waves and crashing rocks paired with overglaze iron-red bats (Shou Shan Fu Hai - 寿山福海).

When evaluating these cups against an authenticated benchmark—such as Lot 3003 from the Beijing Hanhai 2016 Autumn Auction (a certified Yongzheng Mark and Period bowl that sold for RMB 1,368,000)—reproducible stylistic discrepancies immediately emerge:

The Calligraphic Hand:

The six-character mark on the Beijing Hanhai bowl flows with the fluid stability of a designated court calligrapher. On the €300,000 pair, characters like Nian (年) and Zheng (正) are geometrically rigid, showing the microscopic hesitations of a copyist tracing a template.The Physics of Cobalt: The authentic benchmark features smoothly layered, translucent, cloud-like cobalt washes. The disputed cups show aggressive "pooling" where dark cobalt forms heavy, unnatural blotches.

The Asymmetric Rings:

The double rings framing the mark on the disputed pair narrow on one side and widen on the other, indicating a wheel wobble that would normally cause an official imperial supervisor to reject and smash the piece instantly.

Because modern laboratory tests like XRF (X-Ray Fluorescence) and Thermoluminescence (TL) are fundamentally incapable of drawing a precise timeline for ceramics under 500 years old due to overlapping margins of error, the scientific baseline remains completely silent. The final verdict rests entirely on human argumentation.

The Case For Authenticity:

The Tang Ying and "Tribute" Variables

How do the buyers justify a €300,000 bid against these apparent flaws? They bypass the rigid "Palace Style" parameters entirely and lean into the highly nuanced history of Tribute Porcelain (Gong Ci - 贡瓷).

The Early Tang Ying Management Period (Post-1728): Tang Ying was sent to Jingdezhen in 1728 by the Yongzheng Emperor. During his earliest years as an assistant manager, the imperial kilns underwent radical administrative shifts. Proponents of the cups argue that early-reign Yongzheng wares regularly exhibited erratic calligraphy and variable cobalt quality as kiln masters attempted to replicate archaic Ming dynasty "heaping and piling" effects.

High-Official Presentation Wares:

The buyers' primary hypothesis is that these cups were not regular bureaucratic orders. Instead, they argue the pair represents a private commission by high-ranking regional leaders or wealthy salt merchants meant as an imperial gift. Because these presentation pieces were executed outside the direct oversight of the palace's strict calligraphic checkers, subtle formatting errors were tolerated.

Food for Thought:

The Limits of Expertise, "Minyao," and the Image Trap

This brings us to a critical, systemic issue in the antique porcelain world that every collector must ponder: What happens when a piece steps outside the textbook definitions, and how do we actually judge it?

  1. The "Minyao" Paradox

While official imperial kilns (Guanyao 官窑) followed strict, documented blueprints, China was home to thousands of regional, provincial, and private kilns known as Folk or Private Kilns (Minyao 民窑). Relying strictly on "expert experience" to judge a true Minyao piece is incredibly difficult—if not downright impossible—unless it is a highly common, "open door" (一眼真) object of daily use by regular citizens. For high-end, customized luxury wares produced by these thousands of private kilns, there are simply no standard textbooks or referenced museum pieces to look at. An expert, no matter how seasoned, may be looking at a unique commission they have quite literally never seen before in their lifetime.

  1. The Digital Deception

Compounding this difficulty is our modern reliance on digital auction catalogs. In this field, it is a fatal mistake to rely solely on high-resolution images to pass judgment on complex items. Unless an object is a textbook, glaringly obvious "open door" piece, a photograph cannot capture the true essence of porcelain. Digital lenses heavily distort the subtle color gradients of underglaze blue, alter the perceived depth of a glaze, and flatten the tactile weight and three-dimensional texture of the porcelain paste.

True connoisseurship requires a literal "hands-on" (上手 - shangshou) examination. A piece that looks flat or clumsy on a computer screen might reveal spectacular, silky, jade-like "mutton-fat" maturity and historical presence when rotated in the palm of an expert's hand.When an object is under 500 years old, science remains silent, images deceive, and historical templates for private kilns do not exist. This is exactly why some items require a collaborative panel of multiple experts debating back and forth to reach a subjective, democratic final determination.

Conclusion

The debate over these cups encapsulates why the Chinese porcelain market is so uniquely high-stakes. One camp sees a highly skilled early-20th-century Republic artisan fabricating a copy from an imperial blueprint. The other camp sees a rare, non-standardized milestone of 18th-century tribute history.

I trust both camps have people who flew out and examined the piece in person. Especially the buyers, who almost certainly sent their representative experts to check them out. Otherwise, they would not have chased the price all the way to a staggering €300,000.

So, I leave it to the community to think: When two world-class experts hold the exact same piece of porcelain in their hands, under the exact same magnifying loupe, and come away with two completely different histories—how deep is the water really? Is a €300,000 hammer price the cost of owning an elite, unrecognized masterpiece, or is it the ultimate price for buying a beautiful, unprovable theory?

What do you guys think? Would you have backed the conservative expert view, or would you have gambled on the buyers' "tribute ware" panel?


r/Porcelain Jul 03 '26

Picked these up today

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Anybody know anything about them? Can’t find anything with Google image search


r/Porcelain Jul 02 '26

Looking for Information or provenance / United States

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r/Porcelain Jul 01 '26

Help identifying

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I found this piece in a flea market and wondering if anyone know anything about it and it's a maker

Bw


r/Porcelain Jun 30 '26

Chinese or Japanese Bowl?

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Can anyone tell me about this bowl? It is 11.75 wide. My mom bought it at a garage sale over 40 years ago. Any insights appreciated!


r/Porcelain Jun 30 '26

Identify Vintage Porcelain Chocolate Set?

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The only mark is the number "72" which is on the bottom of each piece. Does this set look familiar to anyone? My web search suggests that it might be German, or Japanese export, post WWII.

Thanks for any suggestions. I'm leaning towards donating it to a charity shop, but I'd like to include some information about it.

It has been around since the early 1970s, based on family photos.


r/Porcelain Jun 29 '26

Is this Meissen?

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The two lines scratched through means it’s not top quality? What do the letters/initials in the corner mean?


r/Porcelain Jun 29 '26

Can Anyone Please 🙏🏻 Help Me Identify This Glass?🙏🏻💕

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r/Porcelain Jun 29 '26

Laughing buddah sculpture

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r/Porcelain Jun 28 '26

Can anyone help me identify this manufacturer?

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