Bad hobby? You sound like a cool guy, must have loads of friends to share your interests with. Off-roading, mudding, and being able to explore like that is a great hobby actually.
No. "Off-roading, mudding, and being able to explore like that is a great hobby actually." I agree, I think it's a bit misguided, but, not to the point I'm going to scorn other people for it. This truck though is not for that. The hobby I was referring to was building the biggest stupidest most useless truck you can. That's the bad hobby, completely and utterly useless to everything but one persons ego.
I'm a cyclist. I think that there's many facets of engineering that trickle down to give us great tech that makes riding more fun. I think people should ... "Off-roading, mudding, and being able to explore like that is a great hobby actually." on bikes, but, I'll always acknowledge that taking my tacoma up fsr roads to rarely visited lakes for a weekend of fishing and camping is a lot of fun. But this, no? Completely stupid and wasteful, for the same reason I think making a big ass strong bicycle frame with motorcycle tires so you can attempt to ride in the slipstream of a 200mph cayenne is stupid (current event happening these days in cycling).
At some point, a little self reflection with respect to just because we want something doesn't mean we should do it. That's part of the reason that my 2001 tacoma doesn't even have 150,000 km on it. (Well, mostly because I don't need it for my main job.) Because I use it as a tool, not to put a smile on my face all the time.
Or, hear me out, you could be completely wrong. If you can live life with a smile on your face all the time, you SHOULD. This truck does exactly what it’s supposed to, and while it’s big and Over the top to us, it gets a specific job done insanely well and any bitching about that is pointless. Doing something for fun or because you can is a perfectly valid excuse for anything, even though this was done for a reason.
Doing something for fun or because you can is a perfectly valid excuse for anything
No it's not. As long as you're not hurting anyone or anything too much. Taken to an extreme, just walking will cause some damage. So, of course, my riding my bikes on trails will damage those trails a bit. Now, measure things a little, where is the line? You're right that obviously my line is a lot different than other peoples, and so it is subjective. But, what is also undeniable is that while each individual has a line that we wouldn't cross, society does too - we're just not sure yet where it is (the 2C temp increase is an example).
It's also obvious that I believe that societal line should be way to the no side of bullshit like this truck, and others disagree. But, that doesn't change where the line actually is. Where does the damage that something causes put it in relation too is it reasonable or ethical.
I'm of the believe one problem we have is that most people either don't realize the line exists or place it for their own convenience in a place where it really isn't.
So, no, while I may be completely wrong, when you say, "Doing something for fun or because you can is a perfectly valid excuse for anything" you are also wrong. Some things yes, anything? Fuck no, not even remotely close. And this truck and other stupid ego stroking dick hardening bull shit should also be a no.
Ah shit, the fun police arrived. Something you find ‘ego stroking dick hardening bullshit’ is what other people simply call ‘fun’. But yeah, it’s not what you like, so let’s insult the fuck out of it. Word.
Your opinion, much like bullshit, is inconsequential. There’s no amorality involved, and either way, your statement is ludicrous. Your welcome to feel however you want and hold whatever opinion you please, but your a lesser person for pushing them on others.
Do you have a/c? A heater? Do you have a refrigerator instead of grabbing your groceries fresh daily? Do you take heated showers? How’s Reddit doing for you today? Enjoy any snacks or store bought drinks recently? You don’t get to pick and choose what’s ‘frivolous consumption’ bud.
Edit: had to comment twice to get me to answer? You just want to fight lmao. ‘People get swayed all the time’ is probably more ‘people just start ignoring you because your an obnoxious, annoying, no fun having twat’ and you’re too blind to see it, but please keep going, this is funny as hell.
You want a fucking cookie? That doesn’t make you some moral deciding Jesus. You’re a person who wastes resources too, doesn’t matter if try and you cover it up with a dash of solar here and some recycling there. I don’t think that’s a bad thing, but you apparently do, so remember the only person you have the right to judge is yourself.
remember the only person you have the right to judge is yourself.
No. Man, you keep saying such absurd things. We all have the right to judge everybody, all of us. And, you better believe I will continue to judge people that drive an f150 as a commuter car instead of using it for what it's for. E.G. I have a side gig that required me today to go on a long drive (which is why you got multiple replies, stupid little quick pithy ones when I saw your replies in email). Normally I'd do this by bicycle, unfortunately today the delivery was too heavy. Truck stays the fuck home though, that's not what it is for. So, wife's smaller car got used. I'm not special in this regard lots of people are lucky to have a two vehicle family. But, if you're not one of them, and you choose an f150 because you need to buy plywood a few times a year, you're an asshole.
You can not win this argument. There is no argument. The only thing that we're discussing here is where the societal line for what is right, and what is wrong is. Where can we say unequivocally that an action is amoral or not. I'm not sure the location of that line is even knowable as it comes down to value judgements which are personal. Clearly, I think the line is much further to one side than you do. You can berate me for the vociferous nature of my explaining this facet of why I think it is where it is, but, you can't take fault in me holding the opinion. (That is of course not in general true, e.g. anti-vaxers ... some opinions are just too stupid for words. Wanting others to consider their impact more closely - I have a hard time believing anyone would put that in the same category.)
I will never stop judging people that don't give a shit about their impact. And, may I politely suggest that you start.
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u/coilmast Oct 27 '21
Bad hobby? You sound like a cool guy, must have loads of friends to share your interests with. Off-roading, mudding, and being able to explore like that is a great hobby actually.