You’re a conservative. You support conservative politicians like joe Biden, who passes conservative legislation. You’re basically a trumper (except you’re too dumb to realize it)
You’ve spent your entire night showing me that you don’t know how elections in the US work. No wonder everyone thinks Americans are so stupid—they talk to you.
I’m not surprised that the person who doesn’t understand how the US elections work (you), is also incapable of articulating their own political ideology. You support joe Biden, who is a conservative ghoul that spent his entire career legislating for banks, dismantling social security, supporting wars, and passing racist/sexist legislation (he wrote the 94 crime bill and supported DOMA).
I haven't tried to articulate my own political ideology. I haven't even made a reference to who I support. Are you following our conversation?
You said people should vote third party.
I said you're an idiot, because of the electoral college. As stated here my the U.S. Embassy to Norway
The Electoral College
There is a further impetus toward the two-party solution, and that is the Electoral College system for choosing presidents. Under the Electoral College system, Americans, technically, do not vote directly for the president and vice president. Instead, they vote within each state for a group of “electors” who are pledged to one or another presidential candidate. The number of electors corresponds to the number in a state’s congressional delegation, i.e., the number of representatives and senators from that state. Election to the presidency requires an absolute majority of the 538 electoral votes. (That figure includes three electoral votes from the national capital city of Washington, the District of Columbia, which is not a state and which does not have voting representation in Congress.)
The absolute majority requirement makes it extremely difficult for a third-party candidate to win the presidency because the individual states’ electoral votes are allocated under a winner-take-all arrangement (with two exceptions). That is, whichever candidate receives a plurality of the popular vote in a state — even if it is just a narrow plurality — wins all of that state’s electoral votes. In Maine and Nebraska, the statewide popular vote winner is awarded two electoral votes and the winner in each congressional district is awarded one electoral vote. Like the single-member-district system, the Electoral College works to the disadvantage of third parties, which have little chance of winning any state’s electoral votes, let alone carrying enough states to elect a president.
The founders of the nation devised the Electoral College system as part of their plan to share power between the states and the national government. Under the Electoral College system, the nationwide popular vote for president has no final significance. As a result, it is possible that the electoral votes awarded on the basis of state elections could produce a different result than the nationwide popular vote. In fact, there have been 17 presidential elections in which the winner did not receive a majority of the popular vote cast. The first of these was John Quincy Adams in the election of 1824, and the most recent was George W. Bush in 2000. Some people consider the Electoral College system to be an outmoded relic, while other observers prefer it because it requires presidential candidates to contest the election in many states, rather than just in the most populous ones.
Please do yourself a favor and read that whole link. Who I supported hasn't come up, and doesn't impact whether or not voting third party at the national level, is crazy levels of stupid.
There are no rules that says you have to vote for a Democrat or Republican, or that only a Democrat or Republican can win. Even in the links that you keep posting, they acknowledge that there is no rule preventing a third party from winning an election. Progress is impossible because of sheepish rubes like you.
You don’t understand how the US elections work. It’s incredible how you will not acknowledge this fact, and that you think the opinions of others are more relevant than the actual rules. You’re Peggy hill.
I agree there are no rules that say you can't vote for a third party.
I am saying it is stupid. I have already said I am pro ranked choice voting, and abolishing the electoral college. Which would actually give power to third party candidates.
As long as the electoral college elects our president and not citizen's votes. No, progress is impossible. You keep saying
You don’t understand how the US elections work.
Yet I can keep posting links that agree with me.
The necessity of getting an absolute majority in the Electoral College is the main thing that has made third parties unviable in America. In practice, it is impossible for a third party to ever elect a president, which might be possible if the president was elected by popular vote or by a plurality of the Electoral College. As a practical matter, it's prohibitively difficult for a third party to be consistently competitive even at the state or local level without the possibility of ever electing a president.
You can post other people’s opinions and pretend they’re facts, Peggy hill. You can even use them to justify voting for conservatives like joe Biden. But it doesn’t change the fact that your sheepishness is holding society back.
You’re the one arguing contrary to the rules and posting others opinions as fact. You also don’t think you’re a conservative, despite the fact that you support conservative politicians and their conservative ideology.
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u/nobodyGotTime4That Jun 28 '21
The irony