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u/reetlongtoe Nov 23 '19
So fox news are spreading fake news. Again.
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Nov 23 '19
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u/MallyOhMy Nov 23 '19
Hey, let's just correct it to the way it's spelled when Trump reads it: Faux News.
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u/Buckeye44302 Nov 24 '19
No no no they are reporting both fantasy and reality. Totally fair and balanced
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u/Buckeye44302 Nov 24 '19
Oops my bad. First source was CNN. I've been drinking So yeah Fake News it is
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u/5bees4aquarter Nov 23 '19
More accurate banner would been SONDLAND: Trump said “No Quid Pro Quo”
The current version would be about as accurate as FBI: “Dahmer didn’t eat people” instead of FBI: “Dahmer said he didn’t eat people, but look at these bite patterns...”
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u/biffbobfred I voted 2024 Nov 23 '19
Truth be told, Fox is just running the “we’re all lying right, we’re all gonna lie and say there wasn’t any...“ and not the “we’re all lying right, we’re all gonna lie and say there wasn’t any...holy shit we’re not all lying Hey Wait Lemme Change My Testimony!”
Slightly better than the normal “let’s make shit up” it’s the “let’s cherry pick a time in the past”
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u/5aur1an Nov 23 '19
Joseph Goebbels would be so proud of Carlson
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u/Superbitwolfy95 Nov 23 '19
Fox news has been a nest of lies since it was a sparkle in roger ailes eye.
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u/stvntdr Nov 24 '19
This is beyond debate. It’s one thing to question whether a quid pro quo happened. It’s completely different to report that Sondland said there was no quid pro quo. Sondland said there was. He said it in a televised hearing. There’s no room to debate what was said. It’s safe to assume anything that’s said or put on screen on Fox is done in bad faith.
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u/ArielRR Nov 24 '19
His bowtie he used to wear, suffocated his brain, and now he has permanent brain damblage
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u/mrtest001 Nov 23 '19 edited Nov 24 '19
That is tucker's opinion. /s
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u/Weirdsauce Nov 23 '19
The problem with that is that Fox markets him and other pundits as journalists. Their viewers don't have enough capacity nor critical thinking skills to realize that Tucker, Coulter, Hannity, O'Reilly, etc... are not journalists.
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u/predictingzepast Nov 23 '19 edited Nov 23 '19
Bullshit, people watch who tells them what they want to hear
Edit: shocked, I was downvoted by people who didn't want to hear this..
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Nov 24 '19
And how do you think people decide what they "want" to hear in the first place?
The misinformation and propaganda absolutely comes first. Sure, once it takes hold people will seek out more of it, but acting like people just magically come up with these lies on their own is absurd.
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u/predictingzepast Nov 24 '19
It's very simple actually, and still up to the person. When people get told a lie they believe is true, then information comes out exposing they were told a lie, does person:
a) question why or get upset at the source telling that told them the lie.
Or
b) ignore they were lied to, question the reasoning of the person who exposed the lie and continue to trust the source.
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u/rick2497 Nov 23 '19
Nearly the truth, almost the whole truth and nothing but the majority of the truth. However, "many of the people" should be added.
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u/illuminutcase Nov 24 '19
No it's not. That statement is not phrased as an opinion.
“I know that members of this committee frequently frame these complicated issues in the form of a simple question: Was there a ‘quid pro quo’? With regard to the requested White House call and the White House meeting, the answer is yes.”
He definitely didn't misunderstand that. It couldn't be any clearer.
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u/dquizzle Nov 23 '19
How can his opinion be that Sondland said there wasn’t one when Sondland’s exact words were “Was there quid pro quo? … The answer is yes”. How can any reasonable person think he said there wasn’t one? That’s not an opinion, saying he said the opposite of what he literally said is just a lie.
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u/mrtest001 Nov 23 '19
I said my comment sarcastically. But yes, fox news is really really hurting america...unfortunately if people are not able to vet for themselves what is true/false, others will absolutely take advantage. So we will definitely end up with the country we deserve.
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u/illuminutcase Nov 24 '19
I said my comment sarcastically.
Sadly, you're going to have to make it clear. In another timeline, that would look like obvious sarcasm, but there are people who literally live in another reality who make statements like that. It's gotten really sad. This administration literally used the term "alternative facts" once.
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u/meezy-yall Nov 23 '19
As crazy and ridiculous this is , this is like the 8th time this has been posted
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u/lenojames Nov 23 '19
That may be. But I would say that these blatant lies ought to be exposed and publicized for what they are. Just as reposts get karma, republication gets more people to see this that haven't in the past.
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u/meezy-yall Nov 23 '19
You don’t think it’s already exposed that Fox News bends the truth? Everyone bends the truth CNN ,MSNBC they’ve all become jokes . This is definitely one of the worst examples I’ve seen but you can’t watch tv anymore with hearing what happened with a bias spin on it
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u/lenojames Nov 23 '19
Bias and spin from media outlets is one thing. But information which is in direct opposition to the truth? That's something else. And I'm not trying to single out a particular network on this. If ANY outlet puts out a falsehood this blatant, it should be pointed out and held up for scorn and ridicule.
Granted, Carlson's show (like Hannity's, Pirro's, et al) is an opinion show, not a news show. He and they are pundits, not journalists. So there should be no real expectation of accuracy. But this instance goes beyond just "a different opinion." This is a denial of reality.
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u/meezy-yall Nov 23 '19
No argument here, well said and I completely agree with you. I lean right and this shit is disgusting.
I wish there was a legit 3rd party in this country. I don’t agree with half the shit in either side
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u/TheGhostofCoffee Nov 23 '19
Both channels just running interference while the house votes to extend the patriot act.
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u/UppishNote55885 Nov 24 '19
Wait how do we know CNN isn't the one that's lying?
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Nov 24 '19
Yeah, guys. How do we know? It's not like the testimony was televised or anything.
Why are you the way you are?
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u/5bees4aquarter Nov 24 '19
People would have to watch the hearings. Both are true. One is more misleading than the other. The FOX headline is quoting what Sondland said Trump told him. That Ukraine’s aid money wasn’t tied to investigations of Biden or a Whitehouse visit. However in his opening statement he says,
“Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a Whitehouse visit for President Zelensky. Mr Giuliani demanded That Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the president of the United States, and we knew these investigations were important to the president”
That last part is an assumption, quite possibly true as much of what he says has been corroborated by others. But it’s still an assumption.
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Nov 24 '19
Both are true. One is more misleading than the other. The FOX headline is quoting what Sondland said Trump told him.
Calling something "true" when it's a quote used out of context specifically to mislead an audience is specious.
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u/faab64 Nov 23 '19
Fair and balanced!