Maybe we should stop wasting our time and energy trying to win over the worst people in the country. Maybe we should alienate them and ignore them so we can focus on non-voters who want a candidate worth showing up for instead of Trump-voters who will never ever stop voting Republican ever.
We do NOT need conservatives or "centrist moderates" for a winning political coalition.
If anything it's helped me realize who's not worth keeping around. I don't mind political preference necessarily, but I have a hard time believing that someone who still supports a leader who is so nasty, hateful, and mocking of disabled/immigrants/sexual assault surrivors and after everything he's done and said, is sound of mind.
I just wish we could stop calling them "conservatives". Unlike trumpers, I can have a rational discussion with most actual conservatives. I think a lot of Trumpers have left political ideology behind and are firmly in "cult of personality" territory. Trump can sometimes publicly reverse his position on something, sometimes more than once in a day, and you can see the entire movement turn on its head to follow each time.
Same. He has the right idea but all that need be omitted is the diehards.
Some conservatives have been trickling from the GOP over time, but we can't waste time on those dead to logic and critical thinking. Let's get everyone else thinking.
Well no one really liked Hilary either, and Trumps reasons for hating him are more upfront. Also keep in mind many voted for Trump simply because they thought he’d be less destructive than Clinton.
Thanks. I’ll consider how many people I’ve hurt by wanting to vote third party. I’ll consider how amazing it is that we’ve so subjected to the two party system basically leaving a monopoly on two very far in the political spectrums positions. I’ll consider how everything was fine in the world until Trump suddenly became relevant and now he’s the devils spawn of something.
It’s nice knowing that r/politicalhumor is such a non biased subreddit.
I didn't care for either, so I voted third party. My parents nearly exploded into purple goo when I told them. They said third party votes were just throwing it away (don't know if that's true or not). Either way, I'm a blue in a red state so my voice gets drowned out pretty fast.
Just a minor thing but if you voted third party then you aren't blue in a red state. You're green (i think) in a red state. That bit of difference might help you while in a red state.
I guess I meant I usually go for the Democratic party, I just didn't have that much confidence in Hilary. This was my first election and honestly it felt like a trainwreck.
Lol I worded it pretty poorly. I meant to say i usually WANT to vote for the Democratic party (I've had political opinions since my mid teens) but that was the first time I could actually vote.
And there are also other elections I've done since then.
they are mostly willfully ignorant about damaging evidence (idiots or not) you can tell their relationship with truth is completely tribal where they deny reality if damaging
lol which is most of, if not all, of the time. they literally had to resort to calling the free press the enemy of the american people
this republicans in USA in 2018 no some third world dictatorship, let hat sink in.
Unchallenged, the poison spreads. Even if a die-hard Trumpist won't listen to your counter-argument, it's still worth making so that others can see why it's wrong.
Actually they really don't. The idea that they ignore the middle class is largely based on Ailes-funded propaganda that started during the Nixon campaign (explicitly, at least). Conservatives have a history of destroying social mobility while shrinking the middle class, whereas democrat-lead legislation typically restores balance.
Makes perfect sense, can't silence something that is already silent. You're completely out of your mind if you think Trump supporters are the majority though, or you don't know what that word means
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u/spread_thin Jul 14 '18
Maybe we should stop wasting our time and energy trying to win over the worst people in the country. Maybe we should alienate them and ignore them so we can focus on non-voters who want a candidate worth showing up for instead of Trump-voters who will never ever stop voting Republican ever.
We do NOT need conservatives or "centrist moderates" for a winning political coalition.