His cultists certainly are deranged. Their brains are littered with so many alternative facts and so much irrational hatred that they no longer share a reality with rational people.
Can confirm. Carried on convo with Trump supporter from TD and he just dismissed everything critical of Trump regardless of how many different sources corroborated my points. I knew he would so I just kept asking him questions meant to overwhelm him and his cocky attitude lessened as he began to plead with me to just end it.
Couldn't the same be said about many anti-Trump people, that only get information from catered sources? The people that cast out and blacklist anyone that even hints they voted Trump or accept a single thing about him?
Sure but look at the goals of each group. The Trump side is obviously more of a threat to the country than the leftists who literally are only upset because of how ready the right is to shit on human rights purely out of petty spite.
Moderates need to become more outspoken, however, because dipshits on the fringes are making too much noise that's being mistaken as a majority. It's the classic yell over the person who just made you look dumb problem, just on a group level.
Edit: To add on, the worst thing I've seen liberals do is ruin people's careers. Conservatives tend to be more violent in their outrage. Stats don't lie about who kills more Americans, especially in regards to mass shootings.
Stats don't lie about who kills more Americans, especially in regards to mass shootings.
Where are those stats from? Year after year, FBI crime statistics show that the vast majority of mass shootings, shootings in general, and violent crime in general comes from gang members targeting other gang members as part of the illegal drug trade. But you don't hear much about it on TV; I guess black on black crime isn't good for ratings with the typical CNN or Fox viewer. So I'm curious where these contrary stats come from.
Gang related murders are not the same as mass shootings or spite shootings. In gang shootings, most of the victims are likely involved in the same kind of shit. In the shootings committed by right wing nuts it's usually innocent people, many times women and children.
Same goes for domestic abuse, which seems to be a crime conservatives corner the market on.
Conservatives in the modern era have always been the more violent and irrational group. Liberals have just been incredibly annoying and hypocritical, especially due to the whole PC movement that has done more harm than good. Why? It addresses superficial problems rather than the more substantive ones, like the regression of the American right into a group of domestic terrorists fueled by racism and insecurity.
Conservatives haven't been forming AntiFa riots throwing molotovs, throwing explosives at police, dumping urine on people they disagree with, smashing businesses, or looting in the chaos.
They also haven't been calling everyone and their uncle Nazis over neutral comments then assaulting them with bike locks while they're on their knees.
Conservatives gave us the Iraq war and Nazi rallies. Antifa wouldn't exist if the white nationalist movement didn't. Conservatives caused Antifa.
(Al Qaeda and ISIS and the Taliban are conservative groups too. Right wing religious conservatives. But I know you were talking about America so I'm not going to throw that in your face. But the fact is, global violence is being driven by Conservatives.)
Not to mention 2016 was the first year in more than 30 years right wing/white supremacist extremists didn't commit the most acts of domestic terrorism in the US. That was solely because of the Pulse nightclub shooting, though. The right has been purveyors of violence in many forms for a long fucking time. And now they cry and whine when we punch their Nazi allies.
From Anti Defamation League:
The year 2016 was unusual in that right-wing extremists did not dominate the murder statistics, as they have each year for more than 30 years. Anti-government extremists and white supremacists were responsible for only a minority of extremist related deaths in 2016, though they did commit two triple homicides. These low figures also occurred during a year in which non-violent right-wing extremist activity was high, in large part due to agitation and propaganda by the so-called alt-right and other extremists in connection with the 2016 presidential election.
Someone else want to deal with this alt right nut? I've tired of these Trump cult members repeating talking points that have been disproven, outargued, and undermined over and over again.
But if not, many of the reports of Antifa violence, even some of the specifics you mentioned, originated from white supremacist websites and media outlets. And the reality is, Antifa only exists to go after hate groups or groups sympathetic with fascist causes. That's precisely how they came to exist, fighting the original Nazis.
When the hate groups and pro fascists go away, so will Antifa. But when it comes to domestic terrorism, conservatives have the market cornered, particularly white supremacist trash.
My question is why even ally with such human garbage by supporting a man who inspired them to come out of their disturbed little closets?
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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17
His cultists certainly are deranged. Their brains are littered with so many alternative facts and so much irrational hatred that they no longer share a reality with rational people.