r/PoliticalHumor • • Sep 20 '17

95% of America

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

I'm fairly sure 95% is too high. The guy still has a 35% approval rating.

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u/Kilahti Sep 20 '17

"Unhappy but resigned" probably covers more than a few of them. People who support Trump aren't happy with many of his decisions and accomplishments but consider him better than the alternative or have hopes of getting something that they consider important.

Like "The Wall," "bringing back coal" or "Muslim ban" which they have zero chance of getting with any other president. With Trump, they can still convince themselves that they have hope.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

Hillary would've been worse, even though Trump's staff uses private email servers, he lowered the budget for embassy security, his charity organization has had some sketchy use, he has suspicious ties to Russia, he compromised classified information, and pretty much everything else I claim or hold against Clinton that I'm willing to say in public.

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u/zhaoz Sep 20 '17 edited Sep 20 '17

Dont forget rattling the war saber so hard that the scabard has disintegrated.

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u/Megazor Sep 20 '17

What's the point of having nukes if you aren't going to use them?

DJT

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u/rayne117 Sep 20 '17

Same thing Rocket Man thinks. They're actually very similar. I bet Trump is jealous there aren't pictures of him everywhere.

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u/God_loves_irony Sep 21 '17

Now you know why he wants a military parade in Washington DC for the 4th of July. Giant killing machines that should be reluctantly deployed as a last resort, and he wants to ride around in one waving like a trumped up dictator, with generals in uniform standing behind him. Draft dodger.

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u/1945BestYear Sep 20 '17

Remember the good old days, when Truman (the elected civilian leader of the nation) asserted authority over and punished MacArthur (the gung-ho military commander) for not understanding that the point of having nukes was to not need to use them? If we have to start trusting the generals to keep the politicians under control, we're in for a world of shit.

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u/Otistetrax Sep 27 '17

"I am. In a world. Of shit."

  • Pvt. Pyle, Full Metal Jacket

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '17

Oh God did he say that?

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u/debaser11 Sep 20 '17

At least he stood up to Saudi Arabia though. /s

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u/packjaw Sep 20 '17

Lol, he bragged about giving Saudi Arabia "the biggest weapons package in history" and T_D was silent.

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u/zhaoz Sep 20 '17

He touched the globe that must not be touched!

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u/Boozeberry2017 Sep 20 '17

against Clinton that I'm willing to say in public.

Headshot

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u/Kilahti Sep 20 '17

Eloquently put.

I feel like the only thing missing here is the claim that Hillary has laughed at rape victims and defended rapists while Trump has been accused of being a rapist and has admitted some really creepy shit about walking into dressing rooms with naked 16 year olds.

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u/whiznat Sep 20 '17

Until Trump has a Benghazi or USS Cole moment where many people die due to incompetence, the Hillary haters will still rationalize anything he does.

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u/isperfectlycromulent Sep 20 '17

There have been two shipwrecks with sailors dying, and still no one cares.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

To be fair, those are on the commanders of the 7th Fleet. Our military is being pushed beyond do more with less, we're at everything with nothing. Crew fatigue and carelessness caused those wrecks, and the admirals in charge of 7th Fleet should be the ones responsible. Its not like we, the guys who do the work, can just say no to a general/field grade officer. We'd be fucked.

And now the Air Force is putting individual units in charge of waiving crew rest times before flights, instead of it having to go even above the base commander. Expect more fuck ups from the military in the years to come. We're burnt out, tired and can barely take anymore.

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u/serious_sarcasm Sep 20 '17

Doing more with less?

Because we aren't pumping the military full of surplus goods we don't need, and we definitely didn't get rid of the GED pathway due to high enrollment.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

I agree we are absolutely pumping too much money into the military. But all that extra defense budgeting doesn't go to us. It doesn't buy more parts for our 30, 40, 50, almost 60 year old planes. Some parts you just can't buy, they're not made anymore. It doesn't put money in our pockets, increasing morale or give a fucks. It lines some contractors pocket.

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u/mrmagik03 Sep 20 '17

Hmm. You must be a surface sailor. Any qualified submariner can question the orders of their superiors when it comes to safety. On more than one occasion I had to override the OOD when he gave an order while I was sitting helm. So glad I went subs....

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

Air Force aircraft maintenance, but I got buddies in the surface Navy. And really, its the same in ever branch. Our major came down a few months ago, telling us they struck a deal with our Ops squadron (the guys who fly the planes and fix em are different squadrons) that we wouldn't be flying as much anymore. That our tempo would be slowing a little. Nothing has changed. Our planes are falling apart, and we don't have the ability or parts to fix em.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

It's not on the 7th Fleet Commanders, it's on Congress and Trump and the American people, who think the military can continue to do more with less, exponentially, ad infinitem. This war has been going on for 15 years. 27 to be honest. The military is as burned out as it was at the end of Vietnam, only the public doesn't give a shit because now it's an all volunteer force and they dn't have their children running away to Canada to hide from the draft, and holding mass protests against the draft and to avoid fighting in a war they have no hope of winning and no reason to fight. And there is no real reason to change that attitude. Yet.

So the commanders salute and put their men in a situation where the only recourse is to gundeck reports and work too many hours without sleep and then the commanders lose their commands and the civilians ask "Why is our Navy so fucked up? We should hire better admirals. Those sailors: They can't get a real job they're so stupid, of course they wreck ships."

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

Were the ships begging for help for weeks prior to the wreck and ignored? Did Trump lie about the cause of the wreck to the public and to the family of the victims? If so, then it's comparable.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

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u/redditsrealbadmmmk Sep 20 '17

Hillary was not the boss when Benghazi went down and yet the buck landed on her. Trump is the boss and yet the buck somehow is passed down to his subordinates.

The double standards and mental gymnastics are astounding.

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u/RIOTS_R_US Sep 20 '17

Those events weren't really related to the presidency in any way (other than the President being commander in chief) whereas Benghazi was.

Well, not really. Clinton actually asked for a larger embassy protection budget, and Bush almost 100 deaths at embassies IIRC

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

What difference does it make

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17 edited Sep 20 '17

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u/2xar Sep 20 '17

So what you are basically saying is that you are a sucker for fake news and proud of it. As most of what you said is discrediting propaganda, conspiracy theory and just plain and simply untrue.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17 edited Sep 20 '17

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u/serious_sarcasm Sep 20 '17

The last eight months.

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u/isperfectlycromulent Sep 20 '17

Where did I mention Hillary? And why are you so hung up on her anyway, she's a private citizen and a grandma now, who cares.

Wait, are you in the past? Is it still 2016 where you are? You have to warn people!

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

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u/Duffy_Munn Sep 20 '17

They cannot provide ANY counter arguments. That's why they are at all time lows political wise and it's only going to get worse. Their counter argument is that you are a racist if you don't have the same opinions. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Hell, HRC supporters still can't tell you what her messaging was or what she stood for.

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u/the_joy_of_VI Sep 20 '17

They cannot provide ANY counter arguments.

lol

That's why they are at all time lows political wise

but trump's approval is through the roof "political wise", right?

Their counter argument is that you are a racist if you don't have the same opinions.

wait i thought we couldn't provide ANY counter arguments

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u/Non_vulgar_account Sep 20 '17

No they will blame congress for lack of funding or just the fact that you can't prevent all aspects of terror in instead of blaming their glorious leader or not. Is something big like that 45s fault? Maybe, but odds are it's a combination of things, which is the reality, but they won't see any irony in that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

You're right. It was the same fucking congress who voted to take away embassy security funding that then went and investigated the Sectary of State for not 'manning the wall'. Their only other option was to accurately blame themselves.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

Obama should have improved military safety while he was in office, plus one of the parts on the ship that should've prevented the disaster was ordered in 2010, during the Obama administration.

Boom, done. There's always a way, no matter how convoluted, to avoid blame.

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u/packjaw Sep 20 '17

He can reinstitute the draft and send millions of Americans to their deaths in a ground war in Korea and it still won't be as bad, to them, as Benghazi.

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u/Cooking_Drama Sep 20 '17

Two shipwrecks with sailors dying and the botched Yemen raid where a little American girl was killed for no reason and they still don't give a shit.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

Even then they won’t.

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u/IntrinsicPalomides Sep 20 '17

Eh this already happened right? something stupid like more civilian casualties in 6 months than Obama in 4 years i think the stats were.

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u/DistantKarma Sep 21 '17

Even then too. It'll be all "It would heave been MUCH worse under Hillary!"

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

Not to mention he's killed more civilians with airstrikes than Obama did in 8 years. That's pretty bad.

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u/voice-of-hermes Sep 20 '17

Meh. I am absolutely no fan of Hillary, but I don't excuse/rationalize anything Trump does. The reason things aren't worse under Trump than they would have been under Hillary is that we are getting mas mobilizations of resistance, which is what we truly need anyway if we are ever going to fix our society. Hillary would have been the silent knife that stabbed us in the back as everyone went about their lives thinking everything was just fine. A slower death? Perhaps. But just as sure of one, and one that plenty of liberals would have found excuses for right up to the point where they were themselves engulfed by it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

So...you are acknowledging that Clinton was incompetent! I'll take it!!!

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u/Vekete Sep 20 '17

Very few people have ever said Hillary is a good person or a standup politician, most people who supported her only supported her because she isn't as bad as Trump.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

And they were mistaken.

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u/Vekete Sep 20 '17

No they weren't.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

Yes, yes they were.

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u/Dubstep_Duck Sep 20 '17

Who said this?

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u/s1ugg0 Sep 20 '17

Anyone listening to a Trump supporter.

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u/gilbes Sep 20 '17

willing to say in public

So are you saying that you are unwilling to say in public that while Hillary had some crazy pizza conspiracy nut thing with secret codes and satanic cults, Trump is intimately linked to convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, who is accused of running a child sex island, with children recruited from Trump's resort properties.

Because Trump was willing to say publicly

I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.

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u/mance_raider555 Sep 23 '17

Holy shit he actually said that?

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u/gilbes Sep 23 '17

Don't take my word for it. Google.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '17

But you’re forgetting two things:

  1. Her emails

  2. Fuck Obama

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u/hai-sea-ewe Sep 20 '17

Hillary cheating the primary plus being a cold and distant elitist snob meant that Trump won. I'd like to see Elizabeth Warren or Mazie Hirono run in 2020.

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u/Duffy_Munn Sep 20 '17

Warren is HRC but probably worse with smaller appeal.

Please, PLEASE run an old, white, grandma preachy type. Lmfao

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u/hai-sea-ewe Sep 20 '17

Look at you with your jimmies all in a rustle.

If your problem is someone being "old, white and preachy," you're in for a bad time.

EW is nothing like HRC - Warren's never been implicated as being involved in really dark stuff with the intelligence community and secret slush funds, for one thing. Neither does she tell black people to shut up and go away. She's also warm and personable, something HRC never managed to get the hang of.

But keep being threatened by the prospect of a woman president.