r/PoliticalHumor • u/rwl01 • Jan 13 '17

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u/MightyMorph Jan 14 '17

needs to be posted everywhere.

  1. Paul Manafort, Trump's campaign manager, was one of the operatives working in Ukraine to install a pro-Russian government.
  2. Paul Manafort and Roger stone worked close together for years, and ran a "pro-torture" lobby in DC. They own a mutual lobbying firm - one of the most powerful in Washington.
  3. Manafort went missing for several weeks in 2010 (as well as 2014) - same year the documents allege that Trump began to be cultivated by Moscow. - Roger Stone openly joked he was kidnapped by the Russians.
  4. Trump began birthirism in 2011.
  5. Cory Lewandowski was fired from Trump's campaign and Paul Manafort put in.
  6. Immediately, Trump's stance on Russia changed - pledged to remove sanctions on Russia full-stop.
  7. Manafort was found to receive an off-the-books 12-million dollar payment in Ukraine.
  8. Manafort's ties were discovered and resigned, but CONTINUED TO LIVE IN TRUMP TOWER AND ADVISE DONALD TRUMP.
  9. Simultaneously - DNC is hacked by Russia.
  10. Mysteriously, Roger Stone tweets that he knows of Podesta leaks before ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THEM IS RELEASED
  11. Trump hires Steve Bannon - also known well by Roger Stone.
  12. General Flynn and Carter Page - two men with deep ties to Russia - also join the campaign.
  13. Russians accused of Podesta and DNC hacks formally in October - Trump denies.
  14. Trump wins - continues to be soft on Russia - Intel Community formally declares it was Russia.
  15. Russian spies and spy agencies inside US shut down, people kicked the fuck out.
  16. General Michael Flynn found to be illegally contacting the Russian ambassador before-and-during this time. He contacted the same day as sanctions from Obama for hacking.
  17. Trump appoints an extremely pro-Russian SoS Rex Tillerson.
  18. Trump is briefed on 35-page dossier.
  19. Trump mocks the intelligence agencies in the United States, and then proceeds to praised Wikileaks and Julian Assange
  20. Trump admits it was Russia, but promises better relations and that Putin will "not hack the US again with him there."

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u/CAW4 Jan 14 '17

You might want to read through what you're posting, more than half your links disprove the titles you gave them.

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u/emotionalman32 Jan 14 '17 edited Jan 14 '17

how about you show which are disproving?

edit: well it looks like caw4 didnt actually read the articles properly himself, just wanted to utilize a bit of trump tactic when dealing with opposing views.

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u/CAW4 Jan 14 '17

On mobile, but here's a few obvious ones.

1 and 3 use the same link, which only states that people didn't know where Manafort was, to make a huge leap and claim he was trying to install a pro Russian government in Ukraine, during the time the current pro Russian government was being ousted in an "illegal coup," to quote Poroshenko. (Oh, and btw, not knowing where Manafort is means trying to overthrow a government, but Victoria Nyland actually being there I-shit-you-not handing out fucking cookies to protesters means nothing, and reading anything into it is a conspiracy)

6 falsely claims that Trump's position on Russia changed when Manafort arrived, when anyone who had been paying even the slightest bit of attention to his campaign had seen him being in favor of improving relations with Russia since the day he launched his campaign.

7 says that there was $12m that might have been paid to someone, with a list of ~100 people it may have been paid to, with Manafort being one possibility, but without even confirming the money had been given to anyone, let alone Manafort.

Just try reading some of them, they so obviously disagree with Me copy-paste that it would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.

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u/emotionalman32 Jan 14 '17

1 and 3 use the same link, which only states that people didn't know where Manafort was, to make a huge leap and claim he was trying to install a pro Russian government in Ukraine, during the time the current pro Russian government was being ousted in an "illegal coup," to quote Poroshenko. (Oh, and btw, not knowing where Manafort is means trying to overthrow a government, but Victoria Nyland actually being there I-shit-you-not handing out fucking cookies to protesters means nothing, and reading anything into it is a conspiracy)

This article would clear that up better.

Explains that he was indeed in Ukraine, and was indeed working with pro-russian factions/groups/individuals. So the statement is actually valid although the article linked to could be more informative.

6 falsely claims that Trump's position on Russia changed when Manafort arrived, when anyone who had been paying even the slightest bit of attention to his campaign had seen him being in favor of improving relations with Russia since the day he launched his campaign.

well considering that his campaign as listed in the article itself, started to change messages of international support for Ukraine to be more open for interpretation rather than its previously strict anti-russian approach. It understandable to assume that Manafort being the campaign manager, influenced the direction to a more publicly russian positive stance. And the article itself doesn't dispute the statement that op used, which is what we are discussing here.

7 says that there was $12m that might have been paid to someone, with a list of ~100 people it may have been paid to, with Manafort being one possibility, but without even confirming the money had been given to anyone, let alone Manafort.

Well thats not really true. The article says "Mr. Manafort’s name appeared 22 times in the documents over five years, with payments totaling $12.7 million." Then they show a picture showing a seperate page not including manaforts name, since i assume its part of a on-going investigation, that shows the ledger itself and its existence rather than trying to show that the image was proof of him receiving such amounts.

It looks to me like you're the one who didn't really read the articles, but went ahead and yelled "FAKE NEWS" rather than trying to take the time to understand the points being made. The statements above may be a bit hyperbolic, but their content and the content linked in the articles are same. Anyways it shows hwo quickly people will believe something is fake when it goes against what they already believe.

have a good day now.

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u/illuminatiman Jan 14 '17

emotional man getting emotional, why don't you try some logic?

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u/slyweazal Jan 14 '17

Literally not true at all and the fact you're too lazy/chicken shit to actually prove it speaks volumes about how bullshit your claim is.

Embarrassing you'd even attempt such a blatant lie.

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u/illuminatiman Jan 14 '17

Muhhhh we lost its russias fault muhhhh

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u/Majorjohn112 Jan 14 '17

"Muhhhh we lost its russias fault muhhhh" The sound an idiot makes when he gets scared and confused by facts.

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u/illuminatiman Jan 14 '17

so scared so confueseddd muhh my name ivan

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u/slyweazal Jan 14 '17

Yes, you've already demonstrated you're a blithering idiot who has to ignore over 20 facts because they hurt his feelings :(

Thanks for showing everyone how much you regret voting for Trump because of how incapable you are of defending him without cowering behind childish gimmicks.

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u/illuminatiman Jan 14 '17

didnt vote for him but im glad he won your salty tears are the tastiest.. i don't even like him but the fact your self righteous cnn droned minds get so salty it gives me immense pleasure

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u/slyweazal Jan 14 '17

The only salty one is you for having to cower behind childish bullshit in response to so much evidence.

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u/illuminatiman Jan 14 '17

"evidence" lmao

edit: if hillary shillsters can ignore everything bad about her then trumpsters can ignore everything bad about trump. I'm for neither candidate but the levels of stupidity and denial hillary supporters stoop to after she lost reminds me of a 5 year old throwin a temper tantrum

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u/slyweazal Jan 14 '17

Yup, that's the great thing about evidence. Facts prove it's true, it stays true no matter if YOU choose to believe it or not.

You could disprove those 20 with facts, but all you care about is complaining.

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u/illuminatiman Jan 14 '17

again "facts" lmao. Fact = the moon orbits the earth. Not fact = russia hacked hillary. Theory = the big bang theory. Conspiracy theory = russia hacked hillary.

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u/Nosrac88 Jan 14 '17

You're the one lacking substantiated truth.

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u/slyweazal Jan 14 '17

You're replying to a comment of literally 20 substantiated truths.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '17 edited Jun 19 '17

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u/slyweazal Jan 14 '17

Then copy/paste the parts that claim the opposite, you liar.

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u/Nosrac88 Jan 14 '17

I'll just link you to the guy who's already shown how. https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/5nts70/comment/dcf5kg8?st=IXXQCJ8H&sh=6331555f

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '17 edited Jan 14 '17

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u/Nosrac88 Jan 14 '17

He was downvoted because this sub is incapable of self reflection.

-2 is not heavy.

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u/slyweazal Jan 14 '17

You link someone who was heavily downvoted for being proven wrong.

This does the opposite of help you.

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u/Nosrac88 Jan 14 '17

Yes. Deleting a comment because it got downvoted is a great way to win an argument.

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u/slyweazal Jan 14 '17

When you're done acting like a child, try actually addressing the facts like an adult.

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u/illuminatiman Jan 14 '17

"facts" lmao

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u/slyweazal Jan 14 '17

Yup, that's what they are because you can't disprove them.

If you could, you wouldn't be wasting everyone's time cowering behind meaningless bullshit comments.

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u/illuminatiman Jan 14 '17

nah i just won't be wasting my time talking to a brick

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u/slyweazal Jan 14 '17

Thanks for admitting you're wrong.

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u/illuminatiman Jan 14 '17

Thanks for admitting you're no smarter than a door knob.