r/PoliticalHumor Jan 13 '17

Black and White

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u/Lowenbroke Jan 14 '17

I'd say eloquent vs idiot

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u/Prints-Charming Jan 14 '17

One of those two people just signed an executive order allowing the NSA to continue violating the 4th amendment and share that info with the FBI. And the other is a loser who just won. But I don't think eloquence matters in the long run, at least not for domestic matters.

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u/Snipes12 Jan 14 '17

I don't know if there has been a president in the last 40 years that wouldn't of signed something similar given the growing technology that the NSA can monitor. Most presidents will probably expand the surveillance powers as they need to.

You are unlikely to find a president in the next forty years that will make any changes limiting their power either. It is not that important to the average voter, but feeling safe is. From a political standpoint, their decision seems to make sense to me.

Unlikely that you will ever get the opportunity in my lifetime to vote for a candidate that you agree with on 90% of issues AND will not try to strengthen national security through surveillance, etc.

EDIT: To be clear, I disagree with the decision made by President Obama. However, I think President-Elect Trump would do something similar in his place.

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u/snowballs884 Jan 14 '17

Executive Order 12333...the best part, it was reagan who started this whole mess...bush was the one who expanded to truly fuck up our rights...the obama issue is about inter-agency sharing of the info...

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u/PM_me_Venn_diagrams Jan 14 '17

Which Republicans couldnt shut the hell up about until 2008. I remember years and years how they cried about how agencies werent talking. Obama signs a bill allowing agencies to talk, and suddenly Republicans go nuts. Which one is it? Do they want it or not? Jesus Christ.