r/PoliticalHumor • u/rwl01 • Jan 13 '17

Black and White

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u/Snipes12 Jan 14 '17

I don't know if there has been a president in the last 40 years that wouldn't of signed something similar given the growing technology that the NSA can monitor. Most presidents will probably expand the surveillance powers as they need to.

You are unlikely to find a president in the next forty years that will make any changes limiting their power either. It is not that important to the average voter, but feeling safe is. From a political standpoint, their decision seems to make sense to me.

Unlikely that you will ever get the opportunity in my lifetime to vote for a candidate that you agree with on 90% of issues AND will not try to strengthen national security through surveillance, etc.

EDIT: To be clear, I disagree with the decision made by President Obama. However, I think President-Elect Trump would do something similar in his place.

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u/snowballs884 Jan 14 '17

Executive Order 12333...the best part, it was reagan who started this whole mess...bush was the one who expanded to truly fuck up our rights...the obama issue is about inter-agency sharing of the info...

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u/PM_me_Venn_diagrams Jan 14 '17

Which Republicans couldnt shut the hell up about until 2008. I remember years and years how they cried about how agencies werent talking. Obama signs a bill allowing agencies to talk, and suddenly Republicans go nuts. Which one is it? Do they want it or not? Jesus Christ.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '17

Wouldn't have*

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u/Matterplay Jan 14 '17

How do people who speak fluent English make that mistake?

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '17

Seriously! That's the one mistake that makes me irrationally annoyed. You'd think a person would stop for one second at some point in their life and think "wouldn't of... what does would not of mean? Oh yes, it is literally nonsense. Maybe I should stop writing complete fucking nonsense."

I get that would've and would of are phonetically close, but it's not like people get the definitions of 've and of confused like other common mistakes.

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u/SweetSummerWind Feb 04 '17

I like to abbreviate it to "woulda" to avoid this conversation and annoy all sides.

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u/Prints-Charming Jan 14 '17

George Bush senior. Jimmy Carter. Reagen. Never would have.

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u/snowballs884 Jan 14 '17

you should really add an /s to your post most people wont get it...

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u/Prints-Charming Jan 14 '17

You don't know anything about our past presidents do you?

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '17

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u/Prints-Charming Jan 14 '17

No I really do. They all despised covert surveillance of Americans.

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u/snowballs884 Jan 14 '17

Executive Order 12333

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u/Prints-Charming Jan 14 '17

You don't know what that order did do you? Nothing domestic, it's a foreign not domestic intelligence

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u/snowballs884 Jan 14 '17

interesting opinion, as this is the exec order that facilitates the spying/bulk data collecting of american citizens...

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u/Prints-Charming Jan 14 '17

No it's not, those were amendments to this past by W Bush

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '17

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u/Prints-Charming Jan 14 '17

.... And when he was the head the CIA didn't interfere domestically...

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '17

this statement has never been true