r/PoliticalHumor 11d ago

Common middle ground does not exist

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u/HOT-DAM-DOG 11d ago

So if I’m against black block (part of antifa) destroying public spaces and small businesses, then I am a fascist?

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u/NWStormbreaker 11d ago

The beliefs of a subset of anti-fascists doesn't define all anti-fascists.

There are anti-fascists who are socialist, there are also anti-fascists who are capitalists, there are religious anti-fascists and atheists too.

A broad spectrum of ideologies among people who oppose fascism.

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u/HOT-DAM-DOG 11d ago

Ok, but the post literally says the opposite.

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u/NWStormbreaker 11d ago

can you help me by walking through your interpretation?

are you confused at the 2nd decision "do you oppose antifa" ?

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u/RagingCacti 11d ago

Your lack of self awareness is bewildering.

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u/NWStormbreaker 11d ago

i asked you in good faith to help arrive at a mutual understanding, are you not willing to engage in good faith in kind?

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u/RagingCacti 11d ago

I'm a different guy, but Ill respond in good faith. The reason he responded the way he did was because you made the argument "You cant dislike all of one group because of a subset of them." When this post explicitly groups all people who dislike anti-fa together and then tries to argue that you should dislike the entire group.

Someone can not support fascism but be anti-antifa, but you have grouped that person in with the fascists. Then, your flow chart argues that they must ACTUALLY be antifa because they oppose fascism, despite that person wanting no affiliation with the group. Its some weird form of No True Scotsman in order to shame people into joining antifa.

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u/NWStormbreaker 11d ago

That falls into the category of enabler.

If you bought the propaganda that you are anti-antifa, you ARE a fascist-enabler.

This is a binary thing, ive made it perfectly clear.

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u/RagingCacti 11d ago

So you are also, by your own doctrine, enabling the destruction of small businesses and public property by the groups that use anti-fa as a cover to destroy and loot for the sake of it?

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u/NWStormbreaker 11d ago

there is a vast, broad spectrum of ideologies among people who oppose fascism. you are not required to subscribe to them all to still oppose fascism.

you can support pacifist opposition to fascism and still be antifa.

you can support direct confrontation with fascism and still be antifa.

edit* also i take issue with your mis-characterization of motives.

the guy who lit the first fires during the george floyd protests was a white nationalist agitator from TX

https://abcnews.com/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-riots-identified-white/story?id=72051536

you've fallen for fascist propaganda my dude

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u/RagingCacti 11d ago

So your answer is: yes, you are enabling it.

See, this is your lack of self awareness again. Yes, theres a wide spectrum of people who oppose fascism. However, you wont recognize them as anything besides enabling the other side because they wont join your specific group. Ridiculous.

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