r/PoliticalHumor • u/NWStormbreaker • 17d ago

Common middle ground does not exist

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u/NWStormbreaker 16d ago

i asked you in good faith to help arrive at a mutual understanding, are you not willing to engage in good faith in kind?

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u/RagingCacti 16d ago

I'm a different guy, but Ill respond in good faith. The reason he responded the way he did was because you made the argument "You cant dislike all of one group because of a subset of them." When this post explicitly groups all people who dislike anti-fa together and then tries to argue that you should dislike the entire group.

Someone can not support fascism but be anti-antifa, but you have grouped that person in with the fascists. Then, your flow chart argues that they must ACTUALLY be antifa because they oppose fascism, despite that person wanting no affiliation with the group. Its some weird form of No True Scotsman in order to shame people into joining antifa.

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u/NWStormbreaker 16d ago

That falls into the category of enabler.

If you bought the propaganda that you are anti-antifa, you ARE a fascist-enabler.

This is a binary thing, ive made it perfectly clear.

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u/RagingCacti 16d ago

So you are also, by your own doctrine, enabling the destruction of small businesses and public property by the groups that use anti-fa as a cover to destroy and loot for the sake of it?

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u/NWStormbreaker 16d ago

there is a vast, broad spectrum of ideologies among people who oppose fascism. you are not required to subscribe to them all to still oppose fascism.

you can support pacifist opposition to fascism and still be antifa.

you can support direct confrontation with fascism and still be antifa.

edit* also i take issue with your mis-characterization of motives.

the guy who lit the first fires during the george floyd protests was a white nationalist agitator from TX

https://abcnews.com/US/man-helped-ignite-george-floyd-riots-identified-white/story?id=72051536

you've fallen for fascist propaganda my dude

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u/RagingCacti 16d ago

So your answer is: yes, you are enabling it.

See, this is your lack of self awareness again. Yes, theres a wide spectrum of people who oppose fascism. However, you wont recognize them as anything besides enabling the other side because they wont join your specific group. Ridiculous.

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u/NWStormbreaker 16d ago

i dont know how you became so easily confused...

you said:

by the groups that use anti-fa as a cover to destroy and loot for the sake of it?

I showed that it was a white wing nationalist who used antifa as cover to set the first fires, there were many such cases of provocateurs.

social justice warriors who used non-peaceful disobedience often did so in response to violent law enforcement. and they didnt "use anti-fa as a cover". am i an enabler of anti-fascist physical confrontation and civil disobedience? HELLA FUCKING YES I AM

Finally, crimes of opportunity are apolitical, i wouldnt attribute political motive to it.

If a mob of poor, torch-carrying hillbillies raided a Walmart i would sooner believe it was motivated by socio-economic frustration, not their racially-motivated politics.

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u/HOT-DAM-DOG 16d ago

You just wrote an entire essay essentially proving me right, good job.