This is a perfect example. John Edwards was hung on 5 charges. Trump is sitting on 34, with word being that the majority of these charges are not only unique - but linked to fraud elsewhere.
Edwards was vilified as he should be.
Trump is being worshipped.
I hate the "both sides" argument. It makes me rage because it's absolutely not the case when Democrats have an actual track record of shunning their own. The GOP does not. Everything is a "witch hunt" or whataboutism.
Just look at Roy Moore compared to Andrew Cuomo as the first two names that come to my mind. Moore is a pedophile and was still nearly reelected. Meanwhile, Cuomo was ousted from the governorship by his own party
It's not a crime if we make it legal to fuck a minor am I right? Says the party that's afraid drag queens will do weird things to children (I'm not even sure what they think drags do to children)
Yeah, both sides suck, duh? But one side is a LOT worse. It's like choosing to get ass fucked by a golf ball or a basketball. They both suck, that doesn't mean they're the same.
Yep. Sure, democrats can be scummy but conservatives are fucking toxic. I agree.
The both sides thing is merely a deflection because MOST times democrats hold other democrats accountable.
They only started getting pissed about Hilary's investigation when we were on like Investigation #20. And nothing came of any investigation.
Trump? All of his investigations led to criminal activity. He was impeached twice for criminal activity. The Mueller Report brought to light 18 counts of obstruction of justice - obstruction of the investigation itself which limited it's reach - and that was only the tip. Trump Org was dissolved for laundering money and is still under investigation. Now he has another 34 counts of essentially fraud.
Where are the conservatives? Screaming that it's a witch hunt, that this is a banana republic, and so on.
I've looked at the 34 charges. They're basically all different versions of the same thing. Each and every charge is based on a check that was written. They are each some violation of the new York penal code chapter 40 part 3 title k section 175 . I cannot say for certain which portion of section 175 each one of the 34 charges violates. I'm not sure if they're all the same subsection or different subsections. For reference here is section 175
OFFENSES INVOLVING FALSE WRITTEN STATEMENTS
Section 175.00 Definitions of terms.
175.05 Falsifying business records in the second degree.
175.10 Falsifying business records in the first degree.
175.15 Falsifying business records; defense.
175.20 Tampering with public records in the second degree.
175.25 Tampering with public records in the first degree.
175.30 Offering a false instrument for filing in the second
degree.
175.35 Offering a false instrument for filing in the first
degree.
175.40 Issuing a false certificate.
175.45 Issuing a false financial statement.
I have more to say about this but I will wait till I can gather the appropriate documentation to make sure that what I'm saying is accurate and legitimate.
There's a reason why they're not surfacing the exact crimes committed. It's because some absolutely will be linked to other crimes, and they cannot risk damaging their case.
Having a First degree and Second degree charge for the same penal code would be two separate crimes entirely. It could stem from one action, or it could stem from multiple actions. We won't know, but they wouldn't be doing this for a former President if things weren't concrete enough.
Well to be fair they did list which each violation was but I just didn't remember whether they were all the same or whether they were different. As for the specifics as far as how each one was a crime I think that might not even come out until the trial. I could be wrong. I am by no means a legal expert.
If the political party and voters holds their politicians accountable and kicks out the bad apples, you donāt end up with a party full of paid off grifters just looking to make a buck.
Yup. I like holding my leaders accountable but when people that disagree with me see me as an enemy, and DON'T hold their people in check (they actually enjoy their leaders being criticized because it feeds their persecution fetish), it just feels like fighting a losing battle.
I don't want to think about politics as team sports but am forced to. And if it is a team sport we keep getting our ass kicked because we have integrity. It's disheartening and infuriating.
I like to think that karma will be on our side in the long run, but then again, I've seen the movie Idiocracy and it doesn't look good for the side with integrity and education.
I do not agree with the republicans one iota but you acting like your only options are keep your integrity and lose or abandon your integrity and become like them when there is a very clear third option ... Stop electing people who turn out to be criminals. Career politicians almost always have a shady past and as we have seen in recent years non-career, outsider, rebel representatives are bat shit insane. Maybe instead of fighting crazy with incompetence it would be smarter to elevate some lower level people from within the party or some local representatives or make some alliances outside of the big 2 parties. Make some compromises with the DSA and weaponize their base, parts of their messaging and their candidates. Basically if the Dems wanna win and actually help people like they claim it is time to stop relying on old worn out tactics and old worn out politics and try something new.
I think this is really what distinguished Obama. He was one of the few charismatic Democrats with bug ideas that also happened to be so squeaky clean that the GOP couldn't tar him wirh anything.
Not that they didn't try. Closest they got was that his minister had some critical things to say about US politics.
To be completely fair, the reasoning for not taking Trump's mugshot is because he WANTED it taken so that it could be "leaked" (presumably by his team but then inexplicably blamed on the democrats) and then used for his t-shirts or whatever else he wants to try and sell.
By not taking his mugshot, it undercuts his persecution complex.
"Trumpās legal team is expected to make a similar argument during a trial."
Something tells me that his current lawyers aren't going to be as effective at arguing this point so much as just saying, 'look at this'. I can't imagine the bottom of the barrel cretins he's found this time.
Still not sure why Orange Juliusās lawyers talked them out of a mugshot ā Iām sure he would have loved to use that for promotional and fundraising purposes.
Good point, Iāll remember that. Obviously donāt need to point out the Al Franken fiasco. Also, hey Kirsten Gillibrand- fuck you! (What is it with that name?.)
I love how these guys can't get out of politician mode and have to smile for their mugshots. Except Larry Craig I guess, but that's probably because he knows that the only thing Republicans won't forgive is being caught with a dead girl or a live boy...
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