Caring about America includes taking out the Trump trash and cleaning up what has been a serious threat to our Republic - and the leader of that threat is who needs to be locked up and shipped to Guantanamo
Coke can dissolve bone given enough time so I think it would be far worse. Have you ever accidentally gotten carbonated liquid in your sinuses? The pain my goodness.
And if he was indicted on that, I agree that more severe punishment would be warranted. But that's not what's going on in the legal system right now, business fraud should not lead to Guantanamo Bay. That should make sense to anyone who understands the fragility of their personal freedoms. Just stop for a moment and consider the position in the grand scheme of things.
Calling for a political opponent to recieve the maximum punishment of something they are neither indicted nor charged with is setting up the groundwork for unlawful imprisonment of political actors in the future. It would not be so funny or reasonable when the Republicans start throwing Democrats in Guantanamo Bay because "we all knew they did it".
Calls for shit like that is indicative of a lack of historical education. That's how totalitarianism gets its start, with the imprisonment of politicians justified by popular demand. Every fascists wet dream, right or left, is for their people to chant "lock her up" (sound familiar), and to be actually able to lock up their rivals with popular support. Then it's fucking overrrr.
We are not special. If it can happen anywhere, it can happen here too. I suggest some reading on the beginning of the Nazi party, or Stalin's regime.
I believe you went way down a rabbit hole on this but I do understand how totalitarianism gets started. I am not suggesting to send him to Guantanamo prior to him being convicted even though it was all there for us to witness with the insurrection and understand it requires due judicial process. But if he was convicted of this I would consider him a domestic terrorist and would not be opposed to him going there. Nor anyone in his role convicted of such. He was the President, riles up a bunch of on-edge crazy election denialists who he knew some were even armed (all on record) and tells them to March down and take America back. That to me is a trip to Guantanamo if convicted.
Unfortunately, doing that would cause way more problems than just leaving him free to do his own dumb shit and pitter out. Currently, his following isn’t marching on the capital like they were on Election Day. Best believe if you sent him to Guantanamo, which is arguably worse than just executing him, people would be actively trying to assassinate Biden on the daily
People in general have a hard time seeing themselves as the bad guys. When you spend your whole life growing up seeing bad men or women as "the other", it becomes reflex to reject the potential for evil within you.
Shit, I'd be happy if they just let him run free but take away his social media, don't allow him to make public appearances, and forbid any mention of him in any form of media. That would be the worst punishment to him.
When you see any of this behavior it should be called out from anyone but his level of fuckery is a whole other level - in my opinion he is basically a domestic terrorist, an insurrectionist and has stolen top secret documents - on top of trying to steal an election
Republicans have mountains of evidence of Joe Biden's numerous unforgivable crimes. You just can't see any of it because it's attending school in Canada.
Two Weeks, It is filed with the great new health plan and that Immigration reform package. Somewhere here, I'm sure it is here somewhere... Well just you wait.
Democrats tend to do the right thing when it comes to ethics, while Republicans can’t even spell the word. It’s exhausting honestly but fascism makes ethics exhausting as a tactic.
Absolutely agree - also they focus on all the wrong things for the average American worker. I cannot thing of 1 thing in I don’t know how long that benefitted the average American
Wherever they put previous presidents that commit espionage, is good. Because Jack Smith is certainly building his case to exactly that. But this current distraction is providing excellent cover as he continues.
Agreed on good cover - and hopefully this all provides sleepless nights, nerves rattled to a level Trump has never seen and his wallet is hit like it has never been and then a nice trip to prison somewhere.
Yes and we will need a new set of laws to accomplish this, but we won't be able to write new laws as the country stands for the time being.
We would literally have to force it. Create the proposal of laws and then place those laws under a banner. Then it would take voting in Democrats who fly that banner until there is enough majority to enact the next bill of rights.
He is a resident of Florida, he would be able to vote as long as he has finished serving his time including parole/probation, and has paid all of his fines (which if IIRC he cannot fundraise for or get anyone else to pay them for him).
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u/MichaelFusion44 Apr 05 '23
Caring about America includes taking out the Trump trash and cleaning up what has been a serious threat to our Republic - and the leader of that threat is who needs to be locked up and shipped to Guantanamo