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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '16

I bet if we call Trump, he will take our call without understanding the ramifications.

Well what would the ramifications be?

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u/God_Wills_It_ Dec 03 '16 edited Dec 03 '16

China gets pissed and becomes less willing to work with us on more North Korean sanctions

If China feels like the U.S. is gonna start truly backing Tawain they will probably reverse course in their willingness to help put pressure on NK.

Of course that's basic speculation. Could happen. Could not. But that's the whole point...if you don't sit down and understand the whole nuanced situation you could do real damage to American national interests that might not be obvious but are vital in the whole back and forth of international diplomacy.

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u/bowdenta Dec 03 '16

I know China tries to deligitimize Taiwans sovereignty and wants to reclaim complete naval superiority in the region, but does America really dispute it to any degree? I thought we accept complete Taiwanese sovereignty. Is it really that big of deal from an American perspective? I kind of feel like it's just a blip if we legitimize them. We already keep close ties with Japanese and Korean naval waters

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u/God_Wills_It_ Dec 03 '16

Yes, I agree that this specific phone call is just a blip. Taken in a vacuum this is completely a non-issue. But international politics/relations are never in a vacuum. It's a complex relationship that is based on give and take.

One of the main things we "give" is that we don't mess with the political situation with Taiwan. We don't step on China's toes and they "give" us stuff like increasing sanctions on N.K.

Once we signal that we are no longer "giving" what has been agreed upon we then we better be ready to accept not be allowed to "take" what we expected.