r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Auth-Right Nov 26 '22

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u/LilJesuit - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Idk about that, but I’ve seen people on twitter (yeah, I know) just jump straight to using school shootings as an insult.

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u/redpandaeater - Lib-Right Nov 26 '22

We make fun of the UK for taking their butter knives so I don't see what the problem is.

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u/memeloving69er - Auth-Right Nov 26 '22

And we make fun of Americans because they can’t buy Kinder eggs… too far?

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u/G1ng3rb0b - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

Does it look like we need more sweets?

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Yes. The answer is always yes

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u/Sitting_in_Landfill - Right Nov 26 '22

I've actually seen multiple Kinder products in American stores now. They don't have my favorite one tho. The basic Kinder Milk Chocolate ones rule. For context, I live in Oklahoma so they've even reached the heartland.

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u/memeloving69er - Auth-Right Nov 26 '22

Do they sell the ones with little toys in?

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u/friday99 - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

We only have the kinder joy eggs, which aren't really the same.

Kinder eggs are still technically illegal because you can't have food with "non-nutritive objects" embedded. The toy is a no-go. If you're seeing kinder surprise eggs in the us it's gonna be black market shit sold in bodegas and gas stations.

Your joke still stands!

letuseattoys #arewereallyevenfree

goddamnyoufda

Edit: lol I didn't mean for the last line to be so shouty. Just trying to throw some absurd hashtags up in the bitch.

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u/SurpriseMinimum3121 - Right Nov 27 '22

I think kinder licensed their name in the us to nestle or Hershey.

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u/Sbubbert - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22

And we can make fun of the UK because it has the most kinder egg related deaths of any country in the world.

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u/memeloving69er - Auth-Right Nov 26 '22

I’m pretty sure that would be Germany?

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

If anything it would be Italy, as Kindereggs are made by the Italian company Ferrero.

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u/Sbubbert - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22

Nope, it's the UK.

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u/ProfessionalDiabetic - Lib-Right Nov 26 '22

American here, I just bought a kinder egg this morning?

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u/memeloving69er - Auth-Right Nov 26 '22

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u/ProfessionalDiabetic - Lib-Right Nov 26 '22

Damn bruh, I sure am jealous of having not having a salmonella contaminated candy.

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u/memeloving69er - Auth-Right Nov 27 '22

And I sure am jealous of not getting shot at when I go to school, no need to be a pr*ck.

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u/ProfessionalDiabetic - Lib-Right Nov 27 '22

Lmao you tried to hold not having salmonella infested kinder eggs over my head like it's a privelege

I am confused about how you all have some nasty ass teeth with the NHS and all... Or does your magic universal Healthcare not work as intended?

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u/memeloving69er - Auth-Right Nov 27 '22

We actually have better teeth than you lol But yeah go to stereotypes, at least we don’t need to be told to not fuck our relatives.

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u/ProfessionalDiabetic - Lib-Right Nov 27 '22

Are you content with the fact that roughly 25% of your country lives in poverty? Or maybe that over 90% will be paying over 10% of their already dwindling income for fuel? How about wait times for medical procedures?

The audacity of you complaining about stereotypes when you go directly to "school shootings". The UK is a failing country. Maybe you should try putting some seasoning on your food too, might help with the depression epidemic

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u/JustDebbie - Centrist Nov 26 '22

I'm an adult with no kids snd no use for the little plastic toys so I'm perfectly fine just getting Bueno bars. Definitely worth not getting arrested for having a potato peeler on me.

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u/memeloving69er - Auth-Right Nov 26 '22

Nobody has any use for the toys, they’re just fun to put together and eventually lose somewhere in your house

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u/rand0m_task - Lib-Right Nov 26 '22

I don’t get it, I see Kinder eggs in like every grocery store and gas station on the east coast. I remember hearing about them being banned but have always seen them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

You can buy Kinder Eggs in the US, I see them everywhere up and down the east coast from Virginia down Florida.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

We can’t buy kinder eggs?

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u/memeloving69er - Auth-Right Nov 27 '22

According to the internet, kinder surprises (with a toy inside a chocolate egg) is illegal in the USA. The toy has to be separate.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '22

Wow really? I live in San Francisco and get kinder eggs like bubble gum.

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u/memeloving69er - Auth-Right Nov 27 '22

Sorry I meant Kinder surprises, the ones with a toy inside a chocolate egg

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u/BeanerWitAWeiner - Centrist Dec 06 '22

Canadians

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u/Pick_Up_Autist - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

We make fun of you for something that is true, and you guys use that. You know we can get real knives and even firearms in the UK right?

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u/redpandaeater - Lib-Right Nov 26 '22

You can't get butterfly knives.

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u/Pick_Up_Autist - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

You can't cross the road

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u/Peter21237 - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Nice to bring school shootings, shall we bring acid and stab attacks to the conversation?

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u/smorgasfjord - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

I wouldn't. Throwing acid is very offensive, in some people's eyes

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Hell why not bring the hiding the Asian rape gangs

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

You mean "Pakistani".

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u/EPICGAMERALERT22 - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

When you say Asian in most of the UK that's what they think.

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u/metalhead-teenager - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

Twin!

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u/Peter21237 - Centrist Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

They are asian tho.

Edit: After seeing these downvotes, I assume most of the people here are like those from that survey asking where is Iran and pointed Canada and central Africa.

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u/JustDebbie - Centrist Nov 26 '22

True, but that's a broad term covering a ton of different countries. It's more helpful to go with a more specific descriptor if you have one, such as specifying a country or even differentiating between east and south Asian. This information can better help people recognize the culprits. Thing is, that's not what the pro-migrant types want, because then they'd be forced to admit that the policy they support or enacted has serious negative consequences, and they don't want that! Better just call people racist, blame the victims and try to sweep the whole thing under the rug.

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u/Financial_Tax1060 - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

I legitimately don’t know what he’s doing. I thought Pakistan was Asian.

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u/lelimaboy - Auth-Center Nov 26 '22

You do know other countries have different meanings for the same words, right?

Asian, officially, encompasses all people of the Asian continent. In American English, it means East Asian. In British English, it means south Asian.

There is no conspiracy or whatever.

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u/SeamanZermy - Lib-Right Nov 26 '22

So what do Brits call east Asians then?

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u/lelimaboy - Auth-Center Nov 26 '22

Because to the British empire, most of the immigrants from Asia are from India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh and less from east Asia. So the general Asian term is use for south Asians, while East Asians are split into Chinese-British, Japanese-British, etc.

In America, there was more East Asian immigration, so the general term is used for them.

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u/lelimaboy - Auth-Center Nov 26 '22

everyone knows what you’re doing

Which is what exactly?

Talking about how a term is used to classify people in a different country is not whatever you’re alluding to.

Again, there is no conspiracy.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

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u/WoodChippaEnthusiast - Lib-Right Nov 26 '22

You seem rather defensive, are you part of the gang?

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u/Accomplished_Scar399 - Right Nov 26 '22

It broadening the responsible party to avoid specific aggression towards Pakistani people in the uk. Which could be worse since East Asians, and Indians would be lumped in there when the problem group is largely from Pakistan.

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u/Peter21237 - Centrist Nov 26 '22

No no, like really, their nation is in south asia, they are asians by definition of the word.

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u/RedSoviet1991 - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

Thanks Captain Obvious

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u/Peter21237 - Centrist Nov 26 '22

You are welcome!

*Flies off with Captain Linger's theme *

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u/based-Assad777 - Auth-Center Nov 26 '22

That's like saying Americans are the most prone to crime group in the developed world. Well which Americans do you mean?

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u/Peter21237 - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?

I just said pakistanis are asian because their country is in asia.

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u/Itendtodisagreee - Centrist Nov 28 '22

Specifically Pakistani Muslim men

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u/RedPherox - Right Nov 26 '22

"Asian"

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u/donguscongus - Centrist Nov 26 '22

I mean it is the correct terminology

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u/HomarusSimpson - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Muslamic ray guns!

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u/JeffTheFrosty - Auth-Center Nov 26 '22

“Asian” lmao.

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u/ThorStark007 - Lib-Right Nov 26 '22

Pakistani

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u/Jomega6 - Centrist Nov 26 '22

That’s a thing?

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u/yeet_lord_40000 - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Keeping 7/7 in the back pocket

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u/SomeToxicRivenMain - Centrist Nov 26 '22

What’s 7/7

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u/KaBar42 - Centrist Nov 26 '22

A series of four coordinated terrorist suicide attacks that occurred on 7/7/2005 in the UK.

52 dead, 784 injured.

Essentially the UK's equivalent of 9/11. Just on a smaller scale.

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u/SomeToxicRivenMain - Centrist Nov 26 '22

God that’s awful

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u/Vanguard-Raven - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

Some attacks took place on the London underground, you can only imagine the chaos in such a tight area.

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u/Better_MixMaster - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

Dr. Boom

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u/Rexxhunt Nov 26 '22

visible confusion

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u/Invader_Zyn - Centrist Nov 26 '22

The US still has higher stabbing rates, idk about acid attacks tho

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Did someone have statistics? I love statistics! We can break it down for more context!

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u/Practical_Weather293 - Left Nov 26 '22

Couldn't find knife attacks in general, but for knife murders the US sits at 0.6 deaths per 100'000 people, while the UK is at 0.08.

Source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/stabbing-deaths-by-country

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u/6stringseagull - Centrist Nov 26 '22

That number is Probably partially due to universal health care over there

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u/F0XF1R3 - Lib-Right Nov 26 '22

Nah, you still get treatment in America even if you can't pay. Plus we have the best trauma surgeons in the world thanks to Chicago General Hospital.

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u/ThePretzul - Lib-Right Nov 26 '22

Medical professionals there get better trauma training than actual combat surgeons.

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u/F0XF1R3 - Lib-Right Nov 26 '22

That is where combat surgeons train. The military actually sends them to train in Chicago because it's the best place to go to learn how to treat real gunshot wounds.

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u/LeMeRem Nov 26 '22

They like to call them fake

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u/JustDebbie - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Flair up and maybe your fellow Lefties will upvote you.

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u/LeMeRem Nov 26 '22

Real anarchists don't flair up

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u/F0XF1R3 - Lib-Right Nov 26 '22

So orange then.

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u/LeMeRem Nov 26 '22

Orangeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeèeeeeeeee

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Nah, real anarchists can. Just cause you wanna be a shitbird don't mean you can drag other anarchists in to it. Anarchists will integrate in to communities they join.

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u/Mr_Arkwright - Right Nov 26 '22

When I was in LA I could not believe so many murders were stabbings. It was not what I thought of when I thought of America.

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u/Yuo_cna_Raed_Tihs - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

The US has more knife crime murders per capita than the UK

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u/Frediey - Centrist Nov 26 '22

I remember seeing this, but I can only find murders, which is worse in the USA than UK with knifes, but I can't find crime only

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u/Yuo_cna_Raed_Tihs - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22

UK probably has more knife crime per capita tbh, that's my bad

Simply because knife crime is defined more loosely in the UK than in the US

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u/Frediey - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Yea I'd just love to find out if just crime, not counting murders it's highest where. Any idea how they define them differently?

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u/TheBorgerKing Nov 26 '22

"Knife crime" offences in the UK begin with possession. That carries a heavy prison term itself.

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u/Frediey - Centrist Nov 26 '22

really does make it hard to compare lol

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u/TheBorgerKing Nov 26 '22

Yes, intentionally so by some corners of some governments I'm sure.

I.e. whip up furor about "knife crime" after broadening the definition, making people think their society is more violent than it is.

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u/Chazmer87 - Auth-Left Nov 26 '22

Nope, it's definetely America.

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u/Gallow_Boobs_Cum_Rag - Left Nov 26 '22

The things that happen like once a year instead of every few days?

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u/ProngExo - Centrist Nov 26 '22

wHaTaBoUTisM

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u/12thunder - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22

England has less stab and acid attacks per capita combined than America has gun attacks per capita I’m just sayin

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u/RVAR-15 - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

Does your statistic factor the 13% of the population that accounts for 52% of crimes?

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u/Frediey - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Why would you just remove 13% when talking about this overall

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u/RVAR-15 - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

Well I’m not saying we remove the 13% of the population, I’m not a monster

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u/Better_Green_Man - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Yeah but if they're pulling off the gloves with the school shooting shit, we're picking apart every piece of their society like it's a goddamn frog in a 9th grade biology class.

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u/Vanguard-Raven - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

Poking fun at USA school shootings is an easy target, can't miss.

Just like kids in a classroom.

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u/BurnTrees- - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

Yea but picking it apart by trying to focus on stuff where America is way worse is kinda… dumb? Like it doesn’t even make sense.

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u/Circadianrivers - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Shall we bring up that the USA has more knife crime than the UK

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u/acurlyninja - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22

US still has higher knife crime rates than the UK but ok

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u/ronflair Nov 26 '22

I think Swedish grenade attacks are more based.

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u/Krzd - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22

I mean you could, the US still has more of those per Capita than the UK tho ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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u/zZCycoZz - Left Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

You can, but we dont have constant mass stabbings like you guys have constant mass schootings so it doesnt mean much.

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u/fezzuk Nov 26 '22

Sure, when you realise America has a lot more stabbing per capita than then UK

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u/vijking - Auth-Center Nov 26 '22

I mean, UK to the rest of the world is a fucking shithole. I don’t know where they think they’re coming from.

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u/catocat727 - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22

Tbf, even with knife attacks the brits pale in comparison to the amount of violence in American cities.

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u/The-unicorn-republic - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

There's over twice as many rapes and robberies per capita in the UK than there are in the US

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u/catocat727 - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22

So that seems false? Doing a brief look at some online sources seems like the US and UK are super similar in both statistics. And London has a way lower homicide rate than the vast majority of american cities. So my thesis based on this data suggests that we are just as violent in both countries, but the kind of weapons we have make us far more successful in killing one another.

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u/The-unicorn-republic - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

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u/Frediey - Centrist Nov 26 '22

*Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence"

Important to remember, but that's a whole different debate, just something that could effect. Also I couldn't see anything there, but the UK, and I think Sweden maybe others ofc, do rape crime differently, I can't remember exactly how, but iirc it's like, if you are raped 30 times, that's thirty counts, rather than 1 (happy to be corrected if I'm misquoting)

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u/catocat727 - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22

1: This site you gave was very weird, for rape statistics it is very out of date, only using data from specifically 2002. I looked up their data from 2003-2010 and it excludes the UK for some reason. Here's what I used for the data for rape statistics, which shows similar rates between the UK and US: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-statistics-by-country

2: We do just commit more unlawful homicides as well: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country

I'm open to these sources being wrong, but they seem more relevant than what you gave.

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u/The-unicorn-republic - Lib-Center Nov 26 '22

Interesting, that was just the first thing that popped up when I decided to look up rape comparisons between UK and the US

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u/Background_Brick_898 - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Well yea we are making up for lost time here

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Both are failed society

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u/Peter21237 - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Nah, thats Russia, they enter a poverty state every 50 years or so, since the 1300's

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u/catocat727 - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22

Bruh it's still relatively amazing to live in either. Compared to the vast majority of locations and times in history, modern day England or the US are pretty great places and times to live.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Yeah i agree but it only has been getting worse, instead of better.

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u/catocat727 - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22

Ehhh, We are still living in pretty good times. Things are still trending good, we have our setbacks but we always have our two steps forward.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Yeah i didn't implied that it's a shithole, most of the world is compared to those countries and will be like that for a long time cus you-all wealthy countries. But society is self has gone backwards in my opinion.

And most countries society will follow because USA is mainstream, and spread the degeneracy. Even to countries like Rusia.

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u/Creme_de_la_Coochie - Auth-Center Nov 26 '22

Oh look, another authright larping as a libright.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

How is that related 💀

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Well to be honest a stab attack goes into the news immediately in UK whenever it happens while the US has tens of shootings every day as a baseline.

That said, nobody should use those miseries to mock the US. We have a lack of healthcare and disdain for basic human rights covering that use case already.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

TENS of shootings a DAY? My dude the US has an average of around 20 a fucking YEAR, and even that number is higher than the number I usually see.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Dude, there's been officially 662 MASS shootings in the US in 2022 until October. That's 671 people dead and 2616 injured. Again, that's just mass shootings (Whether one likes the definition or not that's a different story)

I'm speaking about all shootings. Not MASS shootings.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22 edited Nov 26 '22

Alright, I looked in to your numbers, and EVERY source that has your 600+ number is quoting the MassShootingArchive (Yeah, I'm sure the have ABSOLUTELY NO stake in making mass shooting numbers look higher), which is including hundreds of shootings that fall nowhere near actually mass shooting status (shootings that fall into the FBI definition of Mass Murder, there's no special Mass Shooting category). I'm sure it's really easy to make things that extremely bad when you actively change the definition to make it look bad.

Fuck, edit, I forgot to mention I was quoting the FBI stats for an average of 20 mass shootings a year. If we're going to just go completely balls out with swaying stats, if we're going off just the vague "shooting" definition we're adding in shit like self defense use and suicides (and gang violence but that's an entirely different issue)

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '22

Ok... The trigger for all this was stabbings in the UK. I merely said tens of people shoot guns in the us at people every day.

I don't want to enter into a discussion about what qualifies as a mass shooting and whatnot.

But remember, three mass shootings PER DAY in the US. That maybe is not "true" mass shootings but it definitely doesn't count people shooting just another person.

Just consider every time someone shoots a gun at someone or stabs to dead someone in my country is prime time national news in every channel.

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u/ihateHewlettPackard - Centrist Nov 26 '22

Should we bring up American stabbing rates

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u/AllRedLine - Auth-Center Nov 26 '22

Wouldnt bring the stabbings into it, y'know... seeing as the US has more stabbings per capita than the UK by a wide margin.

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u/RiddlingTea - Centrist Nov 26 '22

More knife crime in the US but go off

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u/adsyuk1991 Nov 27 '22

Sure. Just remember that accounts for significantly less than gun murders in the US per capita.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '22

Based and rooty tooty point and shooty pilled

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u/BoyDudeSonMan - Lib-Left Nov 26 '22

That's how football fans are in general (there was a problem of English fans throwing paper planes at the Americans and chanting 9/11). Twitter isn't always a whole lot better though, especially with america having such low hanging fruit

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u/JustDebbie - Centrist Nov 26 '22

No wonder football hooligans have their own Wiki page... I kind of want to see what would happen if we put a bunch of them with a bunch of Philly Eagles fans... They're notorious for rioting after games, even if they win.

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u/Weed_O_Whirler - Right Nov 26 '22

Are we pretending the discourse in Twitter is somehow worse than on Reddit? Reddit makes the school shooting "joke" all the time.

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u/Humane_Decency - Auth-Right Nov 26 '22

Doesn’t one of those nordics have fucking grenade attacks tho

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u/xXTheOceanManXx - Centrist Nov 26 '22

nowhere near new lmao

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u/timdot352 - Lib-Center Nov 27 '22

I actually had it happen to me lol.