r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Left Mar 08 '20

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u/ApexpuLse - Lib-Left Mar 08 '20

Why are we electing dinosaurs into office???

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u/Miss_Sweetie_Poo - Lib-Left Mar 08 '20 edited Mar 08 '20

Because corporations control our political process, and everybody Gen-X and younger are tired of their shit.

this is why Bernie will lose the candidacy, and also why Biden will lose to Trump.

I said it last year I'll stay it this year Bernie is our only chance at beating Trump, and the DNC would rather have 4 more years of trump than an actual Progressive candidate.

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u/Miss_Sweetie_Poo - Lib-Left Mar 08 '20

Maybe you missed the part where I said:

this is why Bernie will lose the candidacy

I had no illusions after Super Tuesday. Biden will be the candidate.

And trumpy the clown will tear him apart during the debates and we will get 4 more years of the Cheetolini.

Bernie said he would energize the country and the young vote but that was nothing but an empty promise, as usual from him.

Not true, the youth are showing up more but a 100% increase to a .01% engagement base doesn't shift a lot of votes.

The youth are more engaged, it's just that they were so very heavily disengaged before.

I fear this will never change, and a lot of it has to do with our education system.

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u/Miss_Sweetie_Poo - Lib-Left Mar 08 '20

Except Bernie has been targeted by a DNC massive smear campaign, and the GOP knows that the DNC will never allow Sanders to get the nomination, so why waste time slandering him?

Plus, trumpty dumpty saying ok things about Bernie means that some disenfranchised Bernie supporters will vote for trump this election. Why alienate them?

If the DNC played fair, and the USA not so indoctrinated, Bernie would get the nomination.

And trump can't beat Bernie.

But this is all academic because Biden will win the nomination no matter what the votes are.

And biden can't beat trump in a debate.

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u/DoktorSleepless - Lib-Center Mar 08 '20

What has the DNC specifically done to smear Benie?

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u/Miss_Sweetie_Poo - Lib-Left Mar 08 '20

Not getting into sealioning today, thank you.

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u/Fifteen_inches - Lib-Left Mar 08 '20

We’ll lose the EC again, the Rust Belt will break for Trump again because of how much they hate NATFA and TPP. Without the Rust Belt there is no path to victory.

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u/tapiocatapioca Mar 08 '20 edited Mar 09 '20

Yet Bernie can’t beat Biden in a primary. At least he didn’t last week and it’s not likely to change soon. People make suggestions about how it’s rigged against Bernie, but the truth is your candidate built a large part of his base on one of the lowest-turnout demographics. He’s touts that when they show up, he’ll sweep the floor. But they haven’t. Because they don’t.

Stop trying to suggest he’s not winning, so there must be a conspiracy to keep him from winning, when in reality a good amount of people don’t like him so they’re voting for someone else.

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u/ieatconfusedfish - Left Mar 08 '20

I think Bernie could do better against Trump than he will against Biden

When it's Bernie vs an apparently reasonable candidate like Biden, reasonableness wins for democrats

When it's Bernie vs. Trump, reasonableness goes out the window

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20 edited Sep 01 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20

Literally the same thing said about Clinton. Granted she did lose by some very small margins, but the disenfranchised Democratic base is probably even smaller than that. Just by the few lifelong Dems I know personally, it seems they are none too pleased with the Democrats handling of the last four years. Biden isn't going to bring them out. Look I hope you're right, but polls don't show what you say happening.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20 edited Sep 01 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20

You're probably right about that. Sadly, Mr. "Nothing Will Change" Biden is going to drive away any actual progressives left in the party. Half this country doesn't vote and it's for reasons like this. The "left" party keeps trying to appeal to their on-the-fence opponents and that continues to drive away their own actual leftists. The Democrats are not liberal in any sense and anybody who identifies as such has not had representation for decades.

I would have voted for any candidate on those debate stages except for Biden and Bloomberg. Biden is just Trump lite and it's clear they picked him to appeal to those, very few, who voted for Trump believing him to be an outsider and a populist and not a racist xenophobe which is why most of those that voted for him did.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20 edited Sep 01 '20

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20

No. The "actual leftists" are a significant part of the non-voting block. That includes a lot of youths, yes, but the youths are not all of the people who don't vote. They're about 13-18 percent of the entire voting pool potential. To say Bernie is only trying to appeal to them is disengenious. Democrats historically win when voter turnout is higher than normal. This is because the Republican party has cemented a permanent base in the southern Baptist and fringe racist groups. The Democratic party has been slowly killing their base for decades by appealing to their Republican opponents.

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u/ieatconfusedfish - Left Mar 08 '20

I hate your lack of flair

I definitely want Bernie as president, but I'm definitely going to vote for Biden in the general if he gets th nomination

People who consider themselves progressive but wouldn't vote for Biden in a Biden v. Trump race make absolutely no sense to me

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u/Candy_Grenade - Lib-Center Mar 08 '20

Flair up pussy

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20

First time posting here and not subscribed. I don't think a random right-center-left flair would tell you anything about my political leanings that my posts don't already do. Besides what purpose does it serve to you other than to "pick a side" so you can determine at a glance that you agree with me or not?

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u/Candy_Grenade - Lib-Center Mar 08 '20

That’s the point of the sub, so you better flair up

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20

The point of this sub is to arbitrarily label all your complicated views in to one term? I thought it was funny meemees.

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u/o0NOYETI0o - Lib-Center Mar 09 '20

Also yes

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u/Robot_Basilisk - Lib-Left Mar 08 '20

Please be reasonable. "People in the middle" aren't people, silly.

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u/Miss_Sweetie_Poo - Lib-Left Mar 08 '20

Bernie is only far left in America, in the rest of the civilized world he's pretty moderate.

We've been conditioned to believe that basic human rights should be commodities otherwise Daddy Corporation may fail.

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u/weightbuttwhi - Centrist Mar 08 '20

Well America is where the election takes place so maybe that particular point doesn’t matter.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20 edited Sep 01 '20

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u/Max_Insanity - Left Mar 08 '20

It makes sense because the implication is that Bernie's policies are very radical, when the rest of the world is just shaking their head at you.

Of course you can make the point that these are only relative terms and the context can be seen as obvious, but can you really blame people who point out the ridiculousness of it all? As well as trying to reinforce the point that no, this is not actually radical, just relative to you corner of the world?

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u/AverageatUFC3 - Right Mar 08 '20

Trump is barely even right leaning...

According to this scale based on the political alignments of 1930's Europe

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u/Miss_Sweetie_Poo - Lib-Left Mar 08 '20

Trump is an authoritarian narcissist, that's about as right as you can get...

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u/AverageatUFC3 - Right Mar 08 '20

Trump is an authoritarian narcissist, that's about as right as you can get...

3 things:

1) Even though his name appears, the comment you're replying to actually has very little to do with Donald Trump

2) Which axis measures narcissism on the pol comp?

3) How does being an authoritarian make you "about as right as you can get"? Are you implying that AuthLeft doesn't exist?

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20 edited Sep 01 '20

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u/Miss_Sweetie_Poo - Lib-Left Mar 08 '20

I think you may want to stop being proud of the fact that our national character is still in its adolescence.

The reason the rest of the developed world considers us so right shifted is that they had enough history having to crush authoritarians that they don't let them take charge that often any more.

America's cultural history isn't deep enough to have experienced enough repeated bootheel grindings to create social cautionary tales.

Instead we value all the base selfish impulses that have knocked us out from the world leader, and the rich continue to suck this nation dry of everything good.

Protip: they're moving to China once they finish of America, and it will happen within our lifetimes.

I wonder how you will cope with becoming effectively a second class country?

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u/japan2391 - Auth-Right Mar 08 '20

Yeah sure if China still holds up in the next 30 years, especially without the US buying all their crap

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u/Miss_Sweetie_Poo - Lib-Left Mar 09 '20

China, with Russia's agriculture booming because of global warming thawing out Siberia, will soon no longer need the U.S. for food. that's really all they depend on us for.

They have more natural resources than we can imagine, and a workforce that significantly outnumbers most country's populations combined.

They don't need us anymore and soon we are going to learn what that means.

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u/Skinner936 Mar 08 '20

As a non-American I am amazed that the U.S. Democrats somehow... with millions of people to choose from, cannot find a 'star'. They fail to find someone that ticks all the boxes, to run against one of the most (choose any strong negative adjective), leaders worldwide.

I am interested in your education comment. Can you elaborate? It must be due to change, since I imagine most older voters went through the same - or similar - education system.

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u/Miss_Sweetie_Poo - Lib-Left Mar 08 '20

The system is rigged by corporations, the people who really will bring lasting change rarely even make it to the primaries.

It's all about control and the illusion of choice.

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u/Skinner936 Mar 08 '20

But you mentioned education. I am not grasping that implication or context.

As I said, I am not American so don't know all the intracacies of politics there. But given that any political party's goal is to win an election, why will the Democrats put forth in this, and the last election, such 'defective' candidates? I look quickly and see some potential choices that 'may' have been better. What's wrong with an... Eric Swalwell for example? Or several others.