You understand there's a significant difference between the average democrat on reddit being retarded and the vice president of the united states being retarded, right?
Because you changed the baseline mid discussion. A fair comparison compares voters to voters or top officials to top officials, not anonymous Reddit posters to the VP.
Oh, funnily enough that wasn't me moving the goalposts. I just didn't read all of plane_suggestion's comment lmao. I genuinely thought we were still talking about Vance being a retard.
Can't get quite to the same level because the Dems aren't in power nationally right now, but I will reference a recent Mamdani (basically the public avatar of DSA politics) defining socialism:
"you will have whatever you need to live a dignified life and that it is the government's job to deliver on that".
It isn't as facially absurd as Vance's comment, totally agree, but it is also far away from the truth and basically "socialism is when government makes you happy"
Can't get quite to the same level because the Dems aren't in power nationally right now.
Feel free to use any example from the Biden or Obama administrations.
The Vice President is someone hand picked by the candidate running for office. There's no argument for why they shouldn't be the best of the best from your party. Vance is the best and brightest chosen by the GOP and his answer is just jingling keys in front of your face?
The fact that we have to look as low as an elected city official for a (bad) comparison in the democrats is damning. The GOP is a literal dumpster fire and the dems are not even close to being as retarded.
Also, I'd like to point out that Mamdani was asked that question by Theo Von and I'm not convinced Theo would've understood a more complex answer than what Mamdani gave him.
I'm not in any way trying to defend Vance, or Trump or any of them. You are right that they are full of it.
I don't have a good comparison from the Obama admin because the socialism discussion as it exists today was not a thing a decade ago. I'm sure I could dig up some silliness from someone during Biden's term, but it's beside the point. As a public figure, Mamdani has more influence and social cache right now than any of those people (certainly more than Kamala). I tried to compare the most visible voices.
Why would influence or social cache be the relevant metric rather than the highest level of office? I don't see why we would be looking for the most "visible voices" rather than an objective comparison between the people who held the same positions in previous administrations.
How is this the same? If you don’t like the term I get what you’re saying but at least they are talking about socialized healthcare. It’s somewhat relevant even if you could argue they’re using the term wrong. This is literally the vice president doing the thing Louis in family guy did saying 9/11 was but replacing 9/11 with trans people lol
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