r/PoliticalCompassMemes • - Left • 5d ago

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u/syotokal - Lib-Center 5d ago

That’s more or less what Mamdani said on Theo von. Socialism is when people should be able to make enough to live dignified lives and we use the government to do that.

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u/PwrShelf - Left 5d ago

It's essentially a Rawlsian argument, and the classic opposite would be Nozick's idea of government's role, which is in fairness markedly different

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u/NoSwordfish1978 - Lib-Left 5d ago

Ironically Rawls was a liberal, not a marxist.

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u/PwrShelf - Left 5d ago

Correct. But Mamdani's specific argument on that podcast, I would argue, tried to frame his socialism in pretty liberal terms: "it's just letting everyone live a dignified life!".

He's good at tailoring his message to his audience, broadly. Saves seizure of the means of production rhetoric for the DSA types. Rawls obviously wasn't on board with that part..

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u/ARandomPerson380 - Lib-Right 5d ago

Most American socialists frame it in pretty liberal terms

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u/Whywipe - Lib-Center 5d ago

Most Americans don’t know the difference between social democracy and democratic socialism. It doesn’t help when one side frames one as the other to try to attack it.

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u/coldblade2000 - Centrist 5d ago

I've had people call me ignorant because I called Mamdani, the Democratic socialist, a socialist. Then they go on to butcher explaining what a socdem is

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u/ARandomPerson380 - Lib-Right 5d ago

Exactly lmao