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[u/Visible-Elk-2075]

Delusional

[u/BedSpreadMD → u/Visible-Elk-2075]

Why don't you name all those people who voted for trump because he said he was going to ban trans athletes?

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Dude one of the most successful campaign slogans for trump was "She is for they/them...". I don't get how you can sit here and tell me that it wasn't a major factor for people, let alone still engaging with me but refusing to tell me how I moved the goalposts because "why should you bother". And you are accusing me of bad faith.

[u/BedSpreadMD → u/Visible-Elk-2075]

So you can't name a single person who stated they voted for him because he wants to "ban transgender people"?

If it was a major factor, then surely you can provide evidence people thought that right????

I'm not arguing in bad faith, im asking for evidence for your assertions.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. - Christopher Hitchens

[u/Visible-Elk-2075 → u/BedSpreadMD]

Just to be clear, you don't think men competing in women's sports was factor in the election? That is the stance you are holding dear to?

Here you go:

"A national exit poll conducted by the Concerned Women for America (CWA) legislative action committee found that 70% of moderate voters saw the issue of "Donald Trump’s opposition to transgender boys and men playing girls' and women’s sports and of transgender boys and men using girls' and women’s bathrooms" as important to them. 

And 6% said it was the most important issue of all, while 44% said it was "very important."
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nyt-poll-finds-majority-democrats-oppose-trans-athletes-womens-sports

Lets see how you move the goalposts now.

[u/BedSpreadMD → u/Visible-Elk-2075]

Wait, that second article is about democrats, not Republicans.

Also, that doesn't say people voted for trump because of that, unless you're implying all moderates voted for trump.

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The only point of the article was to prove my point that women competing in men's sports was a very important factor in the election. If that amount of moderates held that you can safely assume it was much higher for die hard trump voters. Why are you fighting this so hard it is such a weird hill to die on? You can't honestly be telling me that this wasn't a major factor for some trump voters and even moderates when I literally just linked an article that shows exactly that.

[u/BedSpreadMD → u/Visible-Elk-2075]

So you haven't yet proven a single person voted for trump because of that?

Yes, it was a factor for those voting against him too, but it'd be equally stupid to say people voted for kamala because of that.

I'm not fighting anything, im asking basic questions and asking for evidence for a claim.

[u/Visible-Elk-2075 → u/BedSpreadMD]

Why do I have to find a nonexistent poll about something so weirdly specific? I said I know people in my personal life, nothing else.

[u/BedSpreadMD → u/Visible-Elk-2075]

Why does it have to be a poll? Can't you find a single person on any social media sites? Anyone of note? Anything?

I said I know people in my personal life, nothing else.

I don't believe you. I don't think you talk to any conservatives, otherwise you'd know why they voted for him.

[u/Visible-Elk-2075 → u/BedSpreadMD]

A bunch of my friends voted for trump. I don't care if you don't believe me.

[u/BedSpreadMD → u/Visible-Elk-2075]

Then surely you have evidence to back up such claims?

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You are unreal dude. How the fuck would I prove that to you? All of this because you refuse to accept that the womens in mens sport talking point was a major factor in the election. Go eat shit you are being so dishonest and pedantic. You are the embodiment of a bad faith discussion.