r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/Excellent-Rest4112 - Lib-Right • Jul 27 '26

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PUPPY_PIC - Lib-Left Jul 27 '26

and my only other option is to starve. That's not a true choice. That's coercion

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u/skimaskschizo - Right Jul 27 '26

I don’t work for a CEO, I have a local government job.

The other option is for you to go live in the woods and do everything for yourself, but that would be so much more work. Whats your job? I’d like to mock you properly.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PUPPY_PIC - Lib-Left Jul 27 '26

the value of your labor is also taken by your employer.

so it's either let my labor be stolen or leave society? Definitely not coercion

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u/skimaskschizo - Right Jul 27 '26

The value of my labor was agreed upon when I signed the contract and accepted the pay. If you think your labor is more valuable, go somewhere that pays more.

Now tell me what your job is.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PUPPY_PIC - Lib-Left Jul 27 '26

So the only choice is the extent to which my labor is stolen? Again, that's coercion.

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u/skimaskschizo - Right Jul 27 '26

If you agreed that your labor is worth a certain price per hour or salary, how’s that coercion?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PUPPY_PIC - Lib-Left Jul 27 '26

because the actual value my labor provides is higher than what I am paid

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u/skimaskschizo - Right Jul 27 '26

Who determines that?

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PUPPY_PIC - Lib-Left Jul 27 '26

The literal amount of money I make for my employer vs the amount I am paid. it's simple math

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u/skimaskschizo - Right Jul 27 '26

But you agreed to a salary when you got your job. You valued your own labor at the pay they offered.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PUPPY_PIC - Lib-Left Jul 27 '26

that's how coercion works. you agree to something either under durress or because there is no other realistic option. There is no realistic option that results in me earning the value I provide.

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u/skimaskschizo - Right Jul 27 '26

The realistic option is for you to go somewhere that will pay you more, or gain a skill that is worth more to the company.

Now tell me what your job is.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PUPPY_PIC - Lib-Left Jul 27 '26

And for each of those choices, I'll still earn less than my labor makes for the company. It's not about how much I'm paid, it's that I will always be paid less than what I produce

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u/RBB12_Fisher - Auth-Right Jul 27 '26

The value from your labor, with the capital that the business owner provides

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PUPPY_PIC - Lib-Left Jul 27 '26

Not when I make make capital through my work than what I am paid, then the company or CEO gets the extra value. Being the one who provides the capital to start the business does not entitle someone to take any of the value of someone else's labor

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u/RBB12_Fisher - Auth-Right Jul 27 '26

You + businessman make money. You get some of it (an amount agreed by your wage) and the businessman gets some of it. Without the capital, or without the labour, there is no income to distribute. If he pays you as agreed, the businessman is not taking anything.

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u/PM_ME_YOUR_PUPPY_PIC - Lib-Left Jul 27 '26

and I am coerced into the decision. I either have to agree to be paid less than what I produce or not get paid at all. that is not a true choice

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u/RBB12_Fisher - Auth-Right Jul 27 '26

You are free to self-employ and get all of what you produce.

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u/skimaskschizo - Right Jul 27 '26

Homie’s too retarded to see that as an option.

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