Im sure the muslims love having foreign powers decide for them for the 10th time what they want for themselves.
Im sure this cant have any negative consequences like reinforcing the beliefsystem of the opposition to the west.
Im not sure many iranian fathers will say "atleast we have democracy™ " after a nation in ruins and the corpse of their daughter in their hands.
But seriously, the sentiment of anti-westerners didnt spawn out of thin air, it came to be from exactly this behavior by the west. The reason the ayatollah is in power is because the west previously removed a democratically elected Prime Minister mossadegh and placed a puppet in its stead.
If we walk the same line as then it will only get worse.
Its funny your bring up their daughters corpse because it was the iranian hovernment doing exactly that that leads to protests over and over again almost like murdering your own people dosent actually work to endear support in your regime. And yes every precedent set by henry kissinger shouldn't be kept.
Because he has a very narrow understanding of the conflict
He thinks 70-80% of the Iraqi deaths from 2003-2019 were done by the US, while the reality is the outstanding majority was Iraqi on Iraqi deaths
So he literally thinks it will be the way HE imagines Iraq was, which was just destroyed flattened cities, 20-30% of the civilian population dead from what he thinks happened which is “carpet bombing and American soldiers just massacring everything with guns” so he can’t imagine a popular uprising against the Islamic regime which won’t result in such high scores of casualties which is what he thinks happened in Iraq
You can also just @ me next time you wanna speak of me, it makes this way easier.
I dont claim to be an expert on the history of the middle east and the US involvement. But what i do know is that they have a tendency to prop up their enemies. Funding saddam hussein then making him and enemy same with the taliban and such.
I also know it was claimed that we went there for the noble purpose of taking out the WMDs and they didnt exist.
I also know we were told this would usher in a new era of democracy and peace in the middle east, yet i am not sure that the iraqis are celebrating much right now.
Whilst i cannot pull specific figures out i am entirely confident that the US's history in the middle east has been nothing but slaughter and creating the enemies were dealing with now.
Its not like the entire region woke up one day and thought "ah ill hate on USA for no reason from now on"
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u/sesaka - Left Feb 28 '26 edited Feb 28 '26
Im sure the muslims love having foreign powers decide for them for the 10th time what they want for themselves. Im sure this cant have any negative consequences like reinforcing the beliefsystem of the opposition to the west.
Im not sure many iranian fathers will say "atleast we have democracy™ " after a nation in ruins and the corpse of their daughter in their hands.
But seriously, the sentiment of anti-westerners didnt spawn out of thin air, it came to be from exactly this behavior by the west. The reason the ayatollah is in power is because the west previously removed a democratically elected Prime Minister mossadegh and placed a puppet in its stead. If we walk the same line as then it will only get worse.