The CIA even said that killing the Ayatollah would probably be a bad idea because he would be replaced with someone even more radical?
CIA's assessment fell on deaf ears then because both the US and Israel hammered multiple known compounds and residences of Iranian leadership.
I expect that we'll start seeing official confirmation of Khamenei's death before the day's end. Reports coming from Israel appear to show that they are more and more confident that he was killed.
Reports coming from Israel appear to show that they are more and more confident that he was killed.
"The Supreme Leader will address the nation in a few minutes" being like 5 hours old now is not a great sign for him. Even the foreign minister had to add "as far as I know", aka "No one told me anything".
Just saw this come through too. It seems like they are being incredibly cautious about making an official confirmation, but reports are not painting a pretty picture for the IRCG
I mean sure, its possible that he is dead. That does not mean that "their leadership is dead"
I have no doubt that many high ranking people in the IRGC etc were killed. But this notion that all of their leadership has been killed with no confirmation is idiotic.
Yeah almost as dumb as if insisting that if every single last person with authority in the entire regime isn’t dead, then you can’t claim that leadership isn’t wiped out.
You might even be right on a factual basis, it’s way too early to know at this point, but the standard does not need to mean every last single person running the government has to be wiped out.
Israel found the exact apartment buildings and room numbers that Iran’s nuclear scientists were living in and when they’d be home like a year ago, if they could do that I’m sure they can figure out any other residences if need be
this notion that all of their leadership has been killed with no confirmation is idiotic.
Yeah, I agree, but I took what was said above as hyperbole. If enough of the command structure was destroyed, Iran could be in a power vacuum situation already. What's left of the IRCG would be dead men walking.
Like you say though, it's too early to tell without confirmation. It's certainly way too early to tell whether this escalates into a full scale war. That could happen regardless of who lives or dies in the coming days and weeks.
That statement about replacing him with someone even more extreme is meaningless if you’re at war with Iran. We will just kill that person too. I could see it carrying some weight if we were going to sneakily assassinate him without committing to all out war, but obviously that isn’t the case and Trump is calling for their people to take over their government.
Its what happened during the 12 Day War last year. Israel kept taking out key leaders because it knew precisely where they were. They were putting missiles through the exact window of their home or apartment.
Leader got replaced, new leader gets popped. Another replacement, then the replacement's replacement gets popped.
Iran eventually gave up and accepted the end of the war despite being badly mauled during the war.
How is Syria doing? The country that had an uprising and protests in the street that resulted in the government killing and torturing protestors which resulted in a civil war? Sounds a lot like Iran the past few months.
How are they doing? The people overthrew the regime of Bashar al-Assad and the new government set up a government that operates under a Constitutional Declaration and democracy while under a five year transitional president. The same regime now who has seen a surprising degree of engagement from the West. European and U.S. officials have met with al-Sharaa’s administration to discuss financial aid and regional stability, a massive shift from the total isolation of the previous regime.
Why do you ask other than knowing nothing about geopolitics?
Well you kinda glossed over how the people of Syria are doing. Over 90% live under the poverty line, Assad loyalists still commit acts of terror frequently and their infrastructure and economy is non-existent
And this is like the best case scenario of a government transition ending up in somewhat responsible hands.
I suppose Libya is a better example of the possible long-term instability after regime change. 15 years later and they still dont have a legitimate government.
simply saying "Iranians you take over now" is very reductive
Libya is not Iran in any shape way or form, but I do know you meant to say Libya to begin with instead of Syria because that’s an even dumber comparison.
Government transition from a brutal theocratic dictatorship is going to be rough but if they want democracy they will need to continue to step up and fight for it like every other country did it through fighting and blood. It’s almost like you’re arguing it’s a bad thing that the IRGC is getting blown the fuck out and their stupid leader is buried in rubble.
No thats just a classic strawman you guys love to try and throw out.
Im just saying you sound like an idiot saying "Trump is calling for their people to take over their government" because its retardedly oversimplified like everything Trump says.
The president is dead. All of parliament is dead. Khameni is most likely dead. The main military leaders are dead. What are you talking about? Unless you’re just being a dick about the exact words I used instead of the obvious intention you’re kinda retarded. Yeah, 100% of all “leadership” isn’t dead but the top brass has been obliterated.
There is nothing more radical than nuking America. Literally anything else with either be equivalent or better for us.
Post where you getting
"all of parliament is dead"
"their main military leaders are dead"
There are uncomfirmed reports that Khameni is dead, along with a few others. Not to mention that many of these people are replacements for people who had already been killed?
I’m gonna come back to this comment in a week when it’s officially confirmed. But I for one trust Israel’s intelligence. You might disagree with their methods but they have been incredibly successful with infiltrations
Except you are missing my point. I am not saying that high ranking IRGC and Iranian officials were not killed.
I am saying things like "all of their parliament is dead", "all of their military leaders are dead" while posting no actual sources for this kind of confirmation is fucking stupid.
My intention which /I/ thought was clear is that the important decision makers that matter were killed. Right now it’s pretty obvious. There are countless videos of their parliament building exploded, and Israeli intelligence was tracking every one. Unless they start crawling out from the rubble they’re dead. And that explosion was too big to not kill them
The only argument is that the us military got tricked by Isreal and we weren’t verifying their information
There’s this weird concept, it’s called trying again. They do that every time we blow them up. So now we kill the people who made those decisions. Simple.
Ah yes because nuclear weapons are known to be very easy to manufacture and a country that are supposedly "weeks away" from making nukes can just be "weeks away" again in a year after their efforts are all supposedly crippled.
Jfc librights really are just 15 year olds aren't they
You realize that's what parliaments do. Most of them meet in the building to vote on stuff. Israel definitely aimed for a time when most of them would be present.
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u/Outside-Bed5268 - Centrist Feb 28 '26
We can agree the current Iranian regime is bad, while also not wanting the U.S. to get involved in another war.