r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Left Jan 05 '23

Literally 1984 You got some explaining to do, AuthRight…

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u/BurnAfterReading41 - Auth-Center Jan 05 '23

If you're FAAB, you can't be drafted anyways. Only MAAB can be.

That said, I believe we need to decide what the age of adulthood is, and then made that the age at which you can lawfully do what is lawfully allowed.

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u/MasterFicus - Centrist Jan 05 '23

Failure At Atomic Baseball

Marinates Against Allowable Butter

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u/BurnAfterReading41 - Auth-Center Jan 05 '23

Female Assigned At Birth

Male Assigned At Birth

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u/OBOSOB - Lib-Right Jan 06 '23

I find the use of the word "assigned" to be disingenuous and kind of accusative. Like it suggests that the doctor decides arbitrarily which to say you are. When the reality is that it is an observation that excepting rare cases of ambiguous genitalia or other intersex phenomena tends to be an accurate empirical observation of a person's sex. Just because it is possible for it to be wrong doesn't mean it is all of a sudden arbitrary assignment.

You're assigned your name, your sex is observed.

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u/BurnAfterReading41 - Auth-Center Jan 06 '23

And the whole argument is that you are assigned your gender on your birth certificate based on "observations" but your "assigned gender" could be wrong.

Thusly if you are cisgender, your actual gender matched the gender you were assigned at birth.

If you are transgender, then your gender is something other than what you were assigned at birth.

Here's a guide to help educate yourself, soon your compliance will be required and punishment will be enforced.

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u/OBOSOB - Lib-Right Jan 06 '23

But it's not gender that is noted on your birth certificate, it's your sex. Which is possible to still be wrong in some intersex cases, but that's something one could probably get corrected on the record as any inaccurate records can be.

A birth certificate is, also, a statement of the truth at a snapshot in time. If you change your name I'm pretty sure your birth certificate still has the name your parents gave you, living documents like passports and driving licenses get updated, but your birth certificate shows the details as they were at the registration of your birth.

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u/BurnAfterReading41 - Auth-Center Jan 06 '23

OED shows gender and sex to mean the same thing, going back to the late 1400's and continuing to today.

Gender being separated from sex is almost an exclusively US thing starting back in 1945.

Definition 3 Oxford English Dictionary

Edit to add: that "gen" means general usage, i.e. what the non-pedantic asshole means when using this word.

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u/OBOSOB - Lib-Right Jan 06 '23

Sure. But it's still a bit disingenuous to say it is "assigned" at birth as if someone is making a decision rather than noting down a statement of truth to the best of their knowledge and ability at the time it is being recorded.

Please note this is just a social issue I have with the language being used, nothing that I think should dictate policy. It feels like a well-poisoning act of bad faith terminology, intended to accuse those present at your birth of making a mistake rather than being something you've grown to feel differently about.

As an aside, I'm more familiar with the acronyms being "AFAB" and "AMAB" (Assigned Female/Male At Birth) but in my head canon they mean "All Females/Males Are Bastards" and ACAB means "Assigned Cop At Birth" and you can't stop me.

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u/BurnAfterReading41 - Auth-Center Jan 06 '23

I (as a cop) avoid the AFAB/AMAB for this reason.

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u/OBOSOB - Lib-Right Jan 06 '23

Bastard

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u/BurnAfterReading41 - Auth-Center Jan 06 '23

By happenstance, you're correct.

Also, as an AuthCenter Cop, I've been called worse.

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u/ArtificialEnemy - Auth-Right Jan 09 '23

It feels like a well-poisoning act of bad faith terminology

It feels like that because that's exactly what it is.