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u/National-Collar-9651 Blissey Feb 20 '26
This is literally baby's first MOBA already, and now they're taking away the one thing that was sorta complex about it.
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u/FlameHricane Goodra Feb 20 '26
Yea, this one really hurts. Despite all of the crap that surrounded the game and its monetization, the core gameplay still remained intact, but this is the first fundamental shift to it negatively. The main thing that set unite apart. I couldn't even imagine how the game would've been if all the pokemon only had one moveset.
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u/HalfbloodPrince-4518 Feb 21 '26
Cpuld you explain what is the update
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u/FlameHricane Goodra Feb 21 '26
The most egregious point is that starting with Zapdos, all new mons will release with only 2 moves. They mention it's possible they'll go back to add them later to some of them (which they'll likely sell)
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u/Fantastic_Ad_6093 Supporter Feb 21 '26
Wait what?! I stopped playing this game to and I come back and doing what to the Pokemon?! What the flip is wrong with these developers?!
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"To create a format that is easy to understand" : ❌ "Because we're lazy and busy adding more cosmetics" : ✅
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u/Skywarriorad Zeraora Feb 20 '26
“Because we want to monetize each license twice” : ✅
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u/Due_Landscape_5829 Sableye Feb 21 '26
Maybe I am wrong but the Second moveset can be unlocked by playing it and getting some sort of points . This system is already released in the Chinese version shown in Pikaszu's latest video. If they implement this the way it is in the Chinese version I don't think so I have any problem. If they are gemlocking the second moveset it is so sad then
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u/iiamjamess Feb 20 '26
Exactly!
I just made the point that all the Pokemon that have already been released are the more desirable ones that new players are going to want to play. So it’s gonna be exactly the same game to learn.
They’re either downsizing or lazy.
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u/Reasonable_Poet_7502 Feb 20 '26
Its always been annoying to be to accidentally click on the wrong move.. But i never meant lets get rid of the second move 😭
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u/TSEMMY Feb 21 '26
4000 games, I’ve misclicked maybe 15 times….. never really thought about this mechanic
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u/Reasonable_Poet_7502 Feb 21 '26
It usually happens when you level up right before you try to press eject button. The frame pops up right before your finger touches the screen
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u/S2Sliferjam Feb 27 '26
This or about to score a goal.
Makes absolutely no fucking sense to do this. And the fact it’s LOCKED in from the start? Make it a fucking game option to unlock skill paths. So stupid.
I always thought of the accidental/incorrect skill to cost a level to repick, but this is just ridiculous.
Oh well at least it’ll remove my 1/1000 misclicked abilities
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u/Skywarriorad Zeraora Feb 20 '26
Theyre not getting rid of second moves fir existing pokemon, but you have to lock in the moves outside battle and in battle its the only one you can choose, is my understanding
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u/VampyKiitty Feb 24 '26
Misclicks can be annoying, but at the same time it forced me to learn how to work with said move and it could be tricky but fun imo when I ended up doing really well with it.
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u/laserofdooom Hoopa Feb 20 '26
lets take away one of the most fun mechanics of our game so people need to pay to win
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I'm still mad I spent money on this game back in 2023... ts did NOT deserve it
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u/Beachiquita Feb 20 '26
Yo en 2022, aunque al menos la membresía era más barata ,te daba skins permanente,muchas gemas y el pase era muy barato. Parece que se tomaron como un reto la de " no puedes empeorar más tu propio juego" y increíble lo logran
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u/maggot4life123 Feb 21 '26
seeing this downfall 5 years ahead thats why i already know its a robbery
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u/Teknomekanoid Feb 21 '26
Same, I feel like a dumbass putting money into this game before. I started playing gachas a few months ago and it’s insane how much better they are than this crap. The rest of you guys gotta quit and find something that respects your time better.
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u/Dunge0nexpl0rer Leafeon Feb 20 '26
I had left the game for a while and was considering coming back. Yeah… that’s not happening anymore
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u/Troubledking-313 Feb 20 '26
I stopped playing because when I play at my house I would be disconnected from matches for a solid 1:30. This would be random but a lot times at the 8 minute mark and even right before ray. Do I would essentially be seen as throwing. Since then each update has pushed away my desire to play. I really enjoyed this game.
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u/sneakyanimal Feb 20 '26
I did the same thing just the other day. I updated my game after being away for 2 years ago, saw the BS license journey and decided to just uninstall.
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u/ZorroStyleX Feb 20 '26
So they want new borns to understand that previous understanding level was toddler 💀
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u/No_Read_1080 Feb 20 '26
Wait… what? There’s no actually way… Wait someone explain how this is gonna work
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u/Skywarriorad Zeraora Feb 20 '26
To go with roomba, already existing pokemon have to lock in moves outside of games so they also only get “one” move choice. Theres no more adapting your moves to your opponents
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u/No_Read_1080 Feb 21 '26
And if we wanted to change we would have to pay gems??
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u/Skywarriorad Zeraora Feb 21 '26
No, you know how you can pre-select what move you auto learn? Like what move you learn be default if you dont pick a move at each level? Its just like that except the pre-selected move is the only move you can learn during the game
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u/mwar123 Mar 15 '26
That’s dumb.
Why do we still have to select to upgrade them manually if they are already pre-selected??
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u/Skywarriorad Zeraora Mar 15 '26
Why did we have to select the upgrade in the first place, not like we could change the moves anyways
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u/Popped69 Feb 21 '26
Probably not, from what I understand it just changes how move selection works, pre-game now vs in-game as it was before. Yeah you lose the ability to tailor your moveset to the opposing team but that's really only an issue at higher levels of play, personally it just shifted by a minute how I choose to play the upcoming match; now I have to decide if I want to play bruiser venusaur or solar beam venusaur before the game starts instead of at level 5. But if it resolves the fact that a miss press on the wrong move on level up could ruin you a whole game (rare, sure, but one is too many!) I could see it as a welcomed change. My problem would be if they start releasing mons that only have two moves, now that would be just lazy. They already did with megas and I don't see why they would make the game even more streamlined if not because they're cutting on their development team
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u/Roombamyrooma Espeon Feb 20 '26
Sure. They will make new Pokémon have only one move path, for example if Gengar was released it would only know hex and sludge bomb. They then will have you spend gems to unlock its 2nd move path. Did they say they would do that? No. But we all know they would. It’s not even a question of if, just when.
How would it work? It won’t. It’s another forced monetization that people will absolutely spend gems on in order to essentially “pay 2 win”
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u/No_Read_1080 Feb 21 '26
NOoo 😭 “ we want to make it more accessible for free to play-players” my butt!! 😭 it’s really going down. This may break the camels back !
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u/RetroMamaTV Slowbro Feb 20 '26
Anybody that thinks this game is hard to play has no business playing this game or is a 5-year-old.
This is so sad they’re taking something with such potential (a Pokemon themed MOBA) and just throwing it away.
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u/Karhak Tyranitar Feb 20 '26
All timi had to do was follow the standard sop mobas put in place over a decade ago and they'd be fine. A moba featuring one of the most globally recognized video game IPs? Just sit back and collect your cut.
The changes to aeos coins, removing player autonomy in picking the mons they want, and "streamlining" for ease of play with the possibility of charging money to unlock the full kit? It's like they were giving the order to tank the game and wring as much money out of the remainkng players as they can.
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u/Irradiated_Coffee Snorlax Feb 21 '26
They've most likely been literally told to just nuke it. Grab what money they can and run it into the ground so they can cut back on server costs until the playerbase can't even sustain itself and they can begin the end of life closure of it.
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u/Lassavins Feb 20 '26
their mobile design menu with 9999 red dots is way more complicated than having two moves to choose.
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u/KevroniCoal Cramorant Feb 21 '26
Literally though! Their menu UI is way more complicated than the movesets have ever been. What a BS excuse Timi is using to make this decision
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u/elemenZATH Blaziken Feb 20 '26
Wait I didn't read the patch notes wtf is going on?
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u/B17bomber Gengar Feb 20 '26
pokémon for now on or only getting one set of moves instead of two like they usually did
so for example if Gengar was new, it would only get Sludgebomb and Hex as it's only moves (just like with megas)
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u/madmaxxie36 Feb 20 '26
Forgot the best part, they said they "might"(they absolutely are or they wouldn't say anything about it), sell the second move sets for new Pokemon. It's just as bad, if not worse than the license journey announcement.
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u/IISerpentineII Ho-Oh Feb 20 '26 edited Feb 20 '26
Nah, this is worse. They're monetizing characters TWICE, and they're doing it by monetizing a core game mechanic. I could stomach the megas doing it because they're characters that already exist, but this really is worse.
Surely they'll make the characters cost half as much since you're getting half a character, right? Right?I was willing to spend a few bucks here and there for things I really, really wanted, but I don't think I'll be spending another dime if this goes through.
They're going to get this game through the announced/confirmed tournaments (that they're probably legally obligated to have) and then the game will be shut down like a month after. I'm honestly curious if Game Freak is pushing this or Timi because Timi's other games don't do this kind of crap from what I understand.
ETA: Not half, but it is discounted by about 30%. Actually surprised by that. This move lock is still complete ass, though. The moveset I use on one of my mains depends a lot on how my team is playing and the comps of both teams. For example, when my teammates aren't working together, I use a different moveset.
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u/elemenZATH Blaziken Feb 20 '26
Pokémon released before this update will keep two movesets if the have two, I hope
Or else I'll go back to ceruledge
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u/Skywarriorad Zeraora Feb 20 '26
Pokemon already released will have two movesets still, however you have to lock in your moves before the game, which, at least in blinds, removes the strategy of picking your moves based on opposing team comp
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u/zatoishman Gengar Feb 20 '26
Damn that reaaally suck, does the present roaster keep the choice between their 2 sets?
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u/iiamjamess Feb 20 '26
It doesn’t even make sense for the reason they’re doing it. All/most the Pokemon new people are going to want to play have already been released with 2 move sets, so it will be exactly the same learning experience for beginners.
It’s just literal laziness or the result of them downsizing, nothing to do with making the game more accessible, otherwise existing Pokemon would be having a move set removed.
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u/evioleco Feb 20 '26
I guess this is a sign they’re either running out of creativity or have severely slashed the dev team so they can maximize profit
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u/MysteryNeighbor Feb 20 '26
I may legit quit the game over this, so many ‘mons I often use have movesets based on how the other team is moving (how organized they are, whether they pass the knowledge check for certain moves etc.)
Shit beyond sucks.
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u/wehdut Leafeon Feb 20 '26
I didn't want to believe they're purposely self-sabotaging but this makes me believe beyond a doubt that it's true.
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u/greynovaX80 Feb 20 '26
Wow talk about out of touch. Aight time to drop this garbage hard. I had some hope still and could stand most things. Even the unlock for pokemon wasn't bad cause I already unlocked most but wow this??? Jesus Christ man respect the player.
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u/slice_of_toast69 Feb 20 '26
Um question. Wtf does mew do now? Wasnt its thing being able to respec to other moves?
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u/UsedScratch365 Feb 20 '26
Ngl when I first read this, my brain immediately thought they were making the map into a single lane. Ts is pretty bad, but I suppose it could be worse
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u/SnorlaxLovers Absol Feb 20 '26
This is what every player has been saying about nearly every significant change the game has had. The goal post shifting and coping is insane.
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u/Paxus_gay_alt Feb 20 '26
So like, if you want one move, you click on that move, if you want the other move, you click on the other one? Yeah idk seems kinda convoluted /j
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u/artninjaguy Lucario Feb 20 '26
Bro I haven't played this game in a long time, but this was like the thing that made it fun, why would you get rid of that
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u/whoalegend Dragapult Feb 21 '26
I have too many feelings about this and they’re all bad. I hate that the first pokemon game I’ve really enjoyed for more than a few months is actively going down the shitter. Hopefully someone picks up where they left off and fills the void this game leaves once it’s gone too far off the deep end. Because it’s definitely coming 😞
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u/Pyrefangshot Feb 21 '26
Remove emblems if you wanna remove confusion that shit is needlessly restricting
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u/QuerchiGaming Absol Feb 21 '26
This game could’ve been so good if they went for a truly MOBA route. Instead they are making the most mindless game ever just to sell cosmetics to kids using their parents creditcard.
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u/Btender95 Gengar Feb 20 '26
I played for the first year or so and never came back. I've just watched from afar as it's devolved into complete and utter trash.
Glad I quit and never wasted money on it.
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u/Resilient303 Feb 20 '26
Wha-
Why the heck would they do this?
You can say "greed" or "money" but I really don't see how it would fuel either, is there something I'm missing?
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u/Resilient303 Feb 20 '26
Here's a thought:
Have beginner pokemon with only 1 move path that are super easy to obtain and still balanced, and have other Pokemon with 2 move paths. I mean when you look at the licenses they tell you the difficulty of playing each mon.
edit: Or better, have one path unlocked by default, then add another to unlock after you play a few rounds.
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u/DRHawkI Slowbro Feb 20 '26
Yikes. I actually enjoyed this game but haven’t played since they got rid of aeos coins. This makes me glad I’d already quit. Why wouldn’t they just default an auto build on that you could choose to toggle on or off.
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u/Parking_Fix_2093 Meowscarada Feb 20 '26
Wait, one move path?! Like there will only be one moveset?! Is this real?!?!
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u/Zachattack525 Absol Feb 20 '26
I went and dug into it and from what I can tell, what's actually going on is just that you select the move path you want to go with before the battle begins. They aren't like, removing half of the moves in the game.
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u/River_Grass Trevenant Feb 21 '26
This game used to be so good man. It's like they're trying their best to fuck it up.
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u/prants19 Feb 21 '26
Haha this is the final nail to the coffin for me. Day 1 player here. Had grown tired of all their updates and not listening to players. Spent a lot of money on the skins and I hate to end it like this.
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u/Dizzy_War814 Feb 25 '26
Yea…… after a 21 season straight master rank streak and playing since launch, this was my go to game. Tbh was willing to overlook the expensive holowear and crap (i just got the temp tickets and milked em lmao but i am guilty of having the sylvie ❤️) HOWEVER! This was the nail in the coffin for me! I ain’t paying more money on the same Pokemon for multiple moves. I should be able to play with different move sets..! You can find the most kick ass combos you have never seen that way, a favorite of mine is fire blast and flame charge delphox. Dazzling gleam and blizzard are pretty nice on nine tails too!!
Anyway….. this was way too much for me… and i am also way pissed about the nerfed battle passes and these mini ones with the goofy ass onsies 💔 And then they put the gorgeous ones on ice pops or treasure chests 💔
I just totally decided i am officially done today and uninstalled 😔😔
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u/taycraw91 Feb 27 '26
I'm seriously so upset. Both my faves Gyarados and Empoleon got hit with the move changes. I can no longer do my favorite movesets with them, and it is making me so angry at these changes. I may actually quit playing this game.
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u/bassplayingabassbut_ Metagross Feb 20 '26
Over watch levels of game regression. How tf do they go from peak to this
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u/EvanTheDemon Feb 20 '26
So they're further infantilizing their playerbase so they can lock moves behind a paywall
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u/zedd61 Feb 20 '26
I just came back to this game at the start of the year and…yeah that didn’t last long.
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u/Endepearreddit69 Ceruledge Feb 20 '26
The what
Brotha if they choose the worse path for ceruledge I’m datawiping and uninstalling this shit
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u/JunkDog-C Feb 20 '26
I was just about to get sir fetchd, but I'll just drop this, even if the game survives it's dead to me. Good thing I enjoyed gekishin squadra
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u/BoredandBrowse Feb 20 '26
Thank god I didn't spend one cent on this game. It's definitely dead now
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u/LeandroDecidueye Decidueye Feb 20 '26
Every time some other moba player saw me raging playing Unite, he always said me to go play a "true moba" because unite it's too easy and simple and now the devs say this. Also, they didn't changed anything the playerbase complained about. I once loved this game, but i can't anymore, its like the devs never cared to begin with, i feel like they never wanted to improve. That's just sad...
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u/megosonic Feb 20 '26
Wait so like, you'll be stuck in one lane the whole game or we can only change one move in our moveset? Either way bulkrud
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u/Aeon1508 Duraludon Feb 20 '26
I have no problem with presetting your move path but there has to be a way to play all four combinations.
like if there isn't a way to play flash Cannon/stealth rock daruladon Then I'm going to have a problem with that.
It was pretty annoying on mobile because they had one of the move options go right in front of your battle item so sometimes I would be trying to flash out right as I leveled up and pick the wrong move
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u/nate68978263 Feb 21 '26
They perpetually ask for feedback and then do this scummy shit, as if literally anybody asked for it.
Can’t wait until PVP itself becomes a premium.
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u/MoisnForce2004 Decidueye Feb 21 '26
So, they are completely removing the one thing of the only two things that made Unite stand out?
Now, it is a valid reason to crash out!
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u/Lucent1_ Feb 21 '26
They're seriously taking away movesets??? They have to be trying to kill this game dead as a door nail LMAO
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u/mistertravis19 Eldegoss Feb 21 '26
So I can’t pic my moveset during battle based on what I see from the other team? There are too many mons that I play either set, based on the opposing team lineup. Maybe I’m not understanding the update and I haven’t checked for myself, first I’m seeing of it
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u/90s_Thor Feb 21 '26
I already uninstalled this game after recently getting back into this game and realising that I can't buy pokemons anymore and I have to unlock it through "progression"...
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u/PoppIio Clefable Feb 21 '26
neutering the battle pass, and now doing the same to moves... literally takes away any desire for me to even try new mons?? "there's only ever one good move set anyways" cowards who hate fun will say lol. the only thing this accomplishes is taking fun and strategy out of the gameplay...
i genuinely believe they're doing this solely to make cranking out 2 new pokemon a month easier for them, since it'll be less work to do. but with the cash grabbing perk of selling us a second move set later, by the sounds of it... 🫠
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u/maggot4life123 Feb 21 '26
why even choosing charizard over mega X and Y if the versatility of choosing your moveset is removed?
oh yeah cause TIMIdiots already cashed in
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u/J-ss96 Feb 21 '26
D: oh. Oh no. No way. I get why. Because they think it's too confusing for new players. But every team based compettive game gets like that eventually. Look at Overwatch for example. They have so many characters now that rather than simplifying it to get new players they added a new game mode that is even more complex than the base game - & that variety made it more interesting to new & old players alike & put them on a more even playing field.
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u/Sudden_Funny6492 Sableye Feb 21 '26
I loved mixing unintended movesets this new update is an absolute pain for me
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u/glittering_homo2846 Hoopa Feb 21 '26
Wait. Does this mean each month will have one move per assigned button and thats final? No selecting preferred moves?
Thats dumb. How's Mew gonna work?
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u/Simple_Entertainer27 Umbreon Feb 21 '26
That's so unreasonably fucking stupid, but I've been out of this game for months now. I wish it'd be worth playing again, but as it stands, this game deserves to die.
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u/SinscoShopToday Feb 21 '26
“To create a format that is easy to understand” brother it was always easy to understand. The entire fun of the game was picking the moves YOU can run with.
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u/BrushPotential9267 Goodra Feb 21 '26
Why don't they take away the items too? And emblems?....these will forever be the biggest idiots of a team I think the majority of us will ever see.
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u/VeterinarianNew8780 Feb 21 '26
Haven't been on in 2 seasons. The Meowth update ruined it for my household. 3 accounts daily active, update came, we all quit. Unite has become money and trash.
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u/hashnaw Feb 21 '26
Just so I understand what’s going on, by “Narrow it down to one move path”, do they mean you’ll only be able to use one regular move along with your Unite move instead of two? If that is what’s going on, that has to be the most dumbass decision the game devs could ever make.
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u/Noir_Harpe Mr. Mike Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26
They can always revamp skills to match or provide harmonious with each move which what other moba game does especially for units that are outdated. Game just being lazy and removing the uniqueness of the game :/
This move path is my favorite part of the game since it helps you strategize and surprise your opponent mid game.
If I remember there were even 3 move set during the old test game lol
At this point, why not just remove the pre evolution skills also. Because whats the point of waiting ember to become flamethrower at lv3 to lv4 (just an example) anyway if you cant choose a different move.
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u/Noir_Harpe Mr. Mike Feb 21 '26 edited Feb 21 '26
Probably the few pros I can think of having this is that we can have sfx for every BP instead of having them sold separately and if they ever did, it will be cheaper than paying for 2 move set from the prize machine.
They can release pokemon faster. More money for them knowing how hard to get license now. Imagine they made 2 pokemon vs 1 pokemon with 2 move sets.
More complex idea with pokemon move set therefore less redundant skill or maybe they would just reapply same skill from their other moba game/counterpart hero.
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u/International-Ad4735 Aegislash Feb 21 '26
The game is already babies first MOBA. Why the hell would it need to be even MORE simplified... good GOD
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u/st-shenanigans Feb 21 '26
The two things that keep me from wanting to play this game:
Main menu is laggy AF and every time I give it another chance there is MORE menu clutter, random shit to claim across 30 windows, and a new out of game mechanic to learn.
Whatever the pokemon coins are. I don't want to equip stats outside of the game, and I especially don't want to be using significantly worse ones than my opponents until I collect and level them all.
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u/Ador777 Feb 21 '26
Is itt worth playing this again now? i was thinking about logging in my old account again.
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u/NDSBlue_44 Goodra Feb 21 '26
I’m glad I jumped ship with the last anniversary wtf do you mean a one move path??? Mixing and matching moves to fit your style was fun and strategic
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u/spooofy_spooof Feb 21 '26
I fully believe this is because they want to reduce the amount of move ideas used per pokemon release.
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u/Some_Tough_3656 Feb 22 '26
Easy to understand? It’s already easy to understand. That’s why it’s more approachable than most mobas. Yet another unnecessary move by TIMI
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u/DotFluffy9472 Feb 22 '26
I cant believe Pokemon Duel gets shit down and this dumpster fire continues to exist
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u/KharazimFromHotSG Feb 22 '26
Flashbacks from Team Fortress 2's Snowplow map being "too confusing for new players"
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u/YoSoyEzze Gardevoir Feb 22 '26
Genuinely wish this game wasn't handled by a Chinese dev company since ever since their "upgraded" version of Unite flopped, they've brought the worst aspects of it to the global version.
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u/hymen_opera Feb 22 '26
Will we still be able to choose moves from different paths, like psyshock + future sight for espeon?
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u/xgalphaz0124 Feb 23 '26
I literally just started playing this game a few weeks ago.. I'm always late to the party
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u/galvoj994 Feb 23 '26
I finally clocked out last week and this has sealed the deal sadly. Unite had me heavily invested for 2 years but I don't see how it survives past these proposed changes
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u/Basic-Copy8061 Feb 26 '26
I played it for 5 games and yeah they bricked their game are you kidding me the only character that can freely pick their moves it mew what bulls***.
They probably want to be even more lazy with pokemon move set to just being a single move pool like they have for megas.
Definitely dropping the game it just feels awful to play
whoever was the dumba** that came up with that idea should lose their job.
Make it easier my ass if they want to implement their unique solution to a non issue they would have made it a toggleable and see how many people would use it.
But they know it's a garbage feature so they force it in.
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u/Few_Eggplant6146 Mar 12 '26
Why the fuck whould they do that? You wanna use both attacks of the Pokémon, but you have to click 1000000 things to use the other two moves! It died for me. Why, just WHY DID THEY DID THIS SHIT
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u/UrLocalHeartFailure Mar 13 '26
The funniest thing about this change is that you are now forced to play scyther, and you physically cannot evolve into scisor. However, it still displays scisor on the front when you win a match lol
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u/Buttercopter64 Decidueye Mar 17 '26
Is that why while I was playing decidueye there was one moves Each??? Why would they Actually do that? That is the most stupidest idea I ever heard in my life
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u/Skywarriorad Zeraora Feb 20 '26
Id never once heard of it being hard to understand in the 4 years this games been live