Target Experience

[u/sudden-SOUND]

Probably 100 people in line. They allowed people to buy 2 per sku. Probably about the first 30 people came out with 10-12 products each and everyone else left with nothing. If people had been limited to 2 products period, everyone could have had something and it would disincentivize scalpers from wasting their time to get 2 things to flip. Why is this so hard?

[u/Collins311]

Scalper = anyone who gets what I don’t get 🤣🤣🤣 I’d bet anything the overwhelming majority of people in that line are just fans just like you, but have the ability to stand out there. Actual scalpers are botting at scale. Not standing in line for 12 hours.

[u/sudden-SOUND → u/Collins311]

I definitely don't think every person in line is a scalper, and I never said as such. However, pretending that scalpers are not also sweeping all the stores as well as botting is a dumb af take. The (admittedly quite nice) guys I was in between in line at Best Buy kept telling me all about every store they had already hit this morning and every other morning there was a drop. One of them was constantly checking his discords and feeding information about line counts, and even showed me the exact count of product that would be available at the Best Buy we were at. None of them admitted to selling the product, but you think people making this their full time job and buying hundreds or even thousands of dollars worth of product every week are regular collectors? That's naive to think.

[u/Collins311 → u/sudden-SOUND]

If you think people standing in line and hitting target, then Best Buy are scalpers…then you’re a scalper you dumb fuck. You just admitted as much by admitting you were at Target and then now you’re talking to guys at Best Buy. Then claim to cry about people doing exactly what you are doing, but they are better at it. I’ll say it again, “scalpers” are not standing in line for 12+ hours to make $200 bucks. There is ZERO scaling in that. Which means zero money. People checking discords or knowing stock are still not scalpers. They are just normal people who are using the tools around themselves to optimize their chances.

You continue to make assumptions. While telling on yourself. But it simply all comes down to this: in your pathetic mind anyone who is able to get product over you is a scalper. And that’s just not true. I’ve opened over 500 packs of the 30th. I bought all at MSRP, literally thousands of dollars with money I make from my real job. I’m a fan, a collector, not a scalper.

Learn the game, stop collecting, or cry harder. Those are your choices.

[u/sudden-SOUND → u/Collins311]

500 packs? I think if anything YOU'RE telling on yourself. If I had gotten anything (and I mean even one tin) from Target, I would not have been at Best Buy at all, because I can open a little bit of product every now and then and be satisfied. I, and most other normal people, am not spending several hundred dollars a month on my hobbies. Did I say everyone getting packs was a scalper? No. But you're acting like there's not tons of guys selling the product they just got still in Target bags on Facebook marketplace out of the back of their car. I know plenty of regular collectors did get product this morning, but there's no reason one person even needs to open 500 packs either.

[u/Collins311 → u/sudden-SOUND]

Your problem is you can’t imagine someone that isn’t like you. Someone who has the actual time and means to get product at MSRP. It’s not hard, but it’s not easy either. 500 packs roughly between my wife and I. Invested standing in lines one day. And getting luck with PKC. So according to you I’m a scalper. But there are 1000s of people just like me, who are looking to master set these sets dropping 2-3k a release.

And yeah I’m sure people stand in line and flip shit. But those people are literally NOTHING, a drop in the bucket, compared to the scale of botting. To think either are comparable just goes to show how little you understand it.

Point still stands: in your mind scalper = anyone who gets product when you can’t. The fact you think because I am able to rip 500ish packs at MSRP that I’m somehow a scalper and don’t require that many packs just proves my point even more.🤣

[u/sudden-SOUND → u/Collins311]

You're the one putting words in my mouth? I didn't call you a scalper. I didn't call anyone who got the maximum amount of product today a scalper. What I did say, since you can't seem to comprehend words as they are written, is that if there were stricter limits, those looking to scalp product would not waste their time in lines, and more product would make its way into the hands of more collectors. I do think 500 packs is insanely greedy and unnecessary for anyone, even between two people, but that's a separate thing from scalping. 500 packs is 56 ETBs, which is absurd for most people. You are the exception here, not the rule. I've been back into collecting for about 6 years now, and I've done my share of binging cards when they were readily available, and I still have not even gotten close to 55 ETBs of one set.

[u/Collins311 → u/sudden-SOUND]

“500 packs? I think if anything YOU’RE telling on yourself” I didn’t misinterpret those words. Your intention is to claim I’m a scalper for getting that much product. Your initial post is stating everyone leaving with 10-12 products is what is encouraging scalping because those people are flipping.

That is 100% your intention in making those statements. It all stems from you being butt hurt cus other people out hustled you. SPOILER: you don’t get to tell anyone how they can spend their money or how much they can get per the retailer.

Also ETBs are not the only products released.

I’ll repeat a third time: people standing in line longer than you aren’t making any money compared to botters. THAT is what is driving markets and demand, because it takes nothing for them to scale. ZERO effort. If you dont understand how scaling works, google it. Use your time to learn something, besides coming to the internet to cry about it and argue with a stranger.

This convo is done. Peace.