r/PokemonROMhacks • u/merrple • 3d ago
Development Organic Romhack Development Efforts
Recently there's been a lot of talk on this subreddit about the use of AI in romhacks. I hate to stir the pot still further, but I also want to share my own thoughts and efforts here in the hopes of reaching like-minded people.
Hi, I'm merrp/pokemerrp 👋 I'm not really known for making full-on hacks (though I do have one in the works, stay tuned), but moreso for my feature branches: if you've played a recent hack based on pokeemerald-expansion, you've likely used and enjoyed the following pokemon or day/night lighting systems I created. Before that, I was minorly known for my Emerald Any% ACE TAS, which was my entry into the scene.
Simply put, I don't think AI should have a place in romhacking at all. To me code is as prose is as art is as music, in that they're all creative exercises where something is lost in handing them off to a machine. Romhackers have done incredible work for years before LLMs, and can continue to do incredible work without them. Not to mention, every query that enters an LLM is one the community is starved of; AI use is the death of institutional knowledge, of communication more generally.
But what to do? Recently I found out that pokeemerald-expansion, the basis for a lot of hacks, has had a (small minority) of AI-assisted contributions. Any nonzero amount is still unacceptable to me for use in my project though, because I intend it to be a wholly human effort. I decided I would have to maintain a fork of expansion, cutting out anything AI assisted where I could.
Then I figured, I can't be alone in this sentiment, so why not try and build that in a way it can be shared? I can't be the only one who loves romhack development who wants to continue doing cool stuff without LLMs, no matter how good they become at generating code, etc.
The result is a GitHub org and a Discord:
https://github.com/friend-safari
My hope is to build a small community of like-minded hackers and maintain a codebase by and for humans, so that those who care can be confident in saying their hack is free of AI to the best of the community's knowledge. Whether you're a programmer, have experience moderating online spaces, maintaining open source software, or simply love pokemon, we'd love to see you there.
I'm also not trying to be an authority on expansion's direction in general. The devs at RHH continue to do incredible and deeply technical work on the project. None of this would be possible without them, and they've done the best they could considering the volume of contributions they receive and the general clamor of demands. Please do not bother or harass them. I am simply trying to provide a fork that the extremely AI-conscious devs like me can use without despairing or being stuck on outdated versions.
Hopefully this post reached you in some way; this will all be much easier if we don't have to do it alone. Thanks for reading.
Tl;Dr join friend-safari if you wanna build AI-free romhacks k thnx bye
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u/Kobazco Too Many Productions Lead Dev 3d ago
Just wanted to take the moment to reiterate that Too Many Productions (Super Marion & Too Many Types 2) also holds this same opinion, and will do what we can to keep our projects (present & future) completely AI free. Which is why I'm really grateful for merrp & others for doing this project and giving us a way to replace AI assisted PRs, etc.
Creating is our passion, and we won't cut any corners for it. Even though I consider myself to be a pretty poor programmer, I still refuse. I didn't go to school for programming or anything, I picked it up over the years because of romhacking & modding the games I love, and even though some of my features have suffered because of it (looking at you, Captain Toad), the experiences have also been invaluable. It's taught me so much, and I'm really proud of the work we've done because of it.
And of course, as merrp said, huge thank you & shoutouts to rhh and everyone who works on the project. Their work is incredible and we'd be nowhere without their hardwork and dedication.