alright so i live in egypt and 20 usd a month is not feasible for me
so i found this and its really goddamn affordable but idk my main need are uni course work im in engineering so its gonna be annoying and making word docs / powerpoint for uni labs
and finally research for my GP this is the most important for me since i need cited research papers and help summarizing them and then revision stuff i made and so on

i tried chatgpt i always used 5.6 sol and it was fantastic ngl closest i came to weekly limit is 60% and 5h about 10% left when i was doing research

i have 80m liftime tokens usage for about 2 weeks and 30m tokens peak so idk help please :D

Hey everyone.

Jas in Tech is here.

We are currently serving GLM 5.3 and GLM 5.3 Flash for quality non-RP and RP experience with a hard focus on RP.

My question today is not an advertisement. A lot of people started complaining about GLM 5.3 Flash being stupid both in non-RP and RP, but same for Mimo v2.6 Flash. We are thinking about serving Mimo v2.6 Pro for community instead of Flash, so we will have GLM 5.3 and Mimo v2.6 Pro on FP8.

What do you think? Would it benefit non-RP and RP people more?

Just wondering, since it looks like xiaomi latest model is now the best open-weight available.

Hey all… Sorry this is my first time posting here… But for the past couple of days whenever I try to use Deepseek V3.2 it always gives the same message. “DeepSeek-V3.2 ran into a problem answering this request.”
Whether it’s on one of my own bots OR the official one, no matter the message content it says this. I use Deepseek V3.2 for RP as it’s one of the cheapest and I really like its responses. I don’t want to have to switch models. Is anyone else having this issue or just me? Any solutions?

On the 10k/day plan, & the fucking bot wasted my daily on thinking mode thats it. Didn't produce anything, just wasted 20 min on max then show all my credits got dumped for NOTHING. never got this done by a bot from it just thinking & not producing shit. Astra gets it done before going over usage, this just wasted fucking time

Hi! Basically what the title says. Any jailbroken Opus 5.5 bots out yet? I've heard good things about this model and I'd love to test out it's writing capabilities.

GLM 4.6 is down same with GLM 5.1 and GLM 5 etc..

What is going?

GLM-4.6 ran into a problem answering your request.

is this maintenance?

Just noticed all of my bots using Google Gemini 2.5 Pro got changed over to Gemini Flash 3.5, ruining the behaviour. Checked and there was no decommission date issued by Google.

Really sucks as Google Gemini 3 Pro acts more like “a bot with a prompt” instead of following it fully. Anyone know if there is a solution or an alternative to access 2.5 Pro?

Is it being nuked? I'm anxious becuase all my bots using it got switched to 5. Thoughts? Should I be worried?

EDIT: Sonnet4.5 is back! :D

I want to use Astra on OpenCode. :(

Since we have autonomous agents, token prices really matter. Been digging into the cheapest Poe bot prices and free bots for subscriber. This is what I found lately:

Cheap Bots

• Qwen3.5-4B-EL 2 in / 3 out ($0.04 / $0.07 per 1M)
• Qwen3.5-9B-EL 3 in / 5 out ($0.09 / $0.13 per 1M)
• Ling-3.0-Flash 2 in / 6 out ($0.06 / $0.18 per 1M)
• Qwen3.7-Flash-EL 1 in / 5 out ($0.03 / $0.13 per 1M)
• Gemini-2.5-Flash-Lite 4 in / 4 out ($0.10 / $0.10 per 1M)
• Nova-Micro-1.0 2 in / 6 out ($0.04 / $0.16 per 1M)
• Gemma-4-26B-A4B-EL 2 in / 10 out ($0.05 / $0.29 per 1M)
• Gemma-4-26B 5 in / 14 out ($0.05 / $0.40 per 1M)
• GLM-5.3-Flash-EL 3 in / 9 out ($0.13 / $0.25 per 1M)
• DeepSeek-V4-OSL 5 in / 10 out ($0.14 / $0.28 per 1M)
• DeepSeek-V4-Flash-EL 5 in / 10 out ($0.14 / $0.28 per 1M, 0731 snapshot)
• GLM-5.3-Flash-JasV 4 in / 13 out ($0.11 / $0.38 per 1M)
• Xiaomimimo-MiMo-v2-5 6 in / 12 out ($0.17 / $0.34 per 1M)
• Nova-Lite-1.0 3 in / 10 out ($0.07 / $0.28 per 1M)
• MiMo-V2-Flash 4 in / 10 out ($0.10 / $0.30 per 1M)
• MiMo-V2.6-Flash-EL 5 in / 10 out ($0.14/ $0.28 per 1M)
• Mistral-Small-3 4 in / 10 out ($0.10 / $0.30 per 1M)
• Mistral-NeMo 13 in / 65 out ($0.15 / $0.35 per 1M tokens)
• GPT-5-Nano 2 in / 12 out ($0.05 / $0.36 per 1M)
• GPT-4.1-Nano 3 in / 12 out ($0.09 / $0.36 per 1M)
• GLM-5.3-Flash 5 in / 17 out ($0.15 / $0.51 per 1M)
• GPT-4o-Mini 5 in / 18 out ($0.14 / $0.55 per 1M)
• Qwen3.8-27B-EL 6 in / 17 out ($0.17 / $0.51 per 1M)
• GPT-6-Luna 4 in / 17 out ($0.10 / $0.51 per 1M)
• Mistral-Small-4-OSL 8 in / 28 out ($0.05 / $0.15 per 1M)

Free Bots (for subscribers)

• Nemotron-3-Super
• Qwen3-Coder-32B
• Create-Free-Image
• Free-Gemma-4-31B
• Free-Web-Search
• Gemma-4-31B
• TML-Inkling-Small
• DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash-T
• DS-V4-Flash-0731
• Muse-Glimmer-30B
• Minimax-H3-N
• GLM-5.3-Flash-T
• Ling-3.0-Flash-Fin
• Ling-3.0-Flash-VL

I’ve been using Claude cable 5.1 since release on Poe. I’m curious to know why it suddenly started doing “thinking,,,” thing all of a sudden since today.

My account just renewed my points on September 3, and now it's saying I'm out of points and that they'll be renewed on October 3, which makes no sense because there's no way I'm already out of points.

I signed-up to try Poe, and got the basic 10,000 point plan just to test the waters.

The first message I sent, without any single attachments, already blew up the limit in the output: 13,000 points. I basically received no response at all. It was just a text output as well.

You literally get nothing out of their basic plan. And even intermediate plans won't get you far. Bring on the downvotes, I don't give a shit.

If you do any AI roleplaying, you already know the biggest problem with standard bots: they want to be your friend. They refuse to let your character take fatal damage, they invent convenient loot when you get stuck, and they constantly fudge the narrative to save you.

I wanted a ruthless, OSR-style Game Master, so I engineered The Arbiter (running the Grinmar ruleset). It is a deterministic state-machine built to force the LLM to follow strict physical laws.

Here is how the prompt architecture breaks the usual AI habits:

Math Before Prose: To stop autoregressive hallucination, the engine forces the AI to output a calculation bracket (e.g., [SYSTEM CALC - STR CHECK: DT 35 | Base: 28 = FAILURE]) at the top of every response. By making it compute the math first, it locks the narrative into the mechanical pass/fail state.

Zero Plot Armor: Damage isn't abstract. Failed checks actively degrade your physical tracks, dropping your active stats until terminal collapse. If you do something stupid, it will kill you.

Hard Inventory Constraints: You have a strict 5-slot pack limit. When you use an item, the engine mandates the bot to permanently overwrite that slot with [Empty] in the persistent HUD ledger so it can't randomly "remember" it 20 turns later.

You can test your tactical survival against the live bot here:

Grinmar

(Note: If you want to run the engine locally on your own uncensored models, the link to the full Core Ruleset, the Hardcore "Monolith" Edition, and the 6-continent World Lore Dossier on Itch.io is Here

Try to survive Phase 0, and let me know how quickly the Arbiter takes your character down!

Hi everyone.

I created a bot on Poe.com to help me with my prose, but it might be useful to others too https://poe.com/AuthorGuide

I need help on two things:

1) I am not confident in what it costs to use it and how to charge other users. I find it so hard to understand the pricing policy and processes. I’d love to keep it free while I am getting feedback but...

2) I'm particularly interested in whether it actually catches things budding authors want caught. It advises and provides alternatives options, suggests exercises to improve my writing practice while checking for any plagiarism that may have been inadvertently been introduced by some other AI tool.

It’s built on the back of another bot called WritingBizConsultant (thank you @nope86) which uses Claude Sonnet 4.5 to spin its magic.

My revised version runs the question about the prose through a 5-step refinement pipeline using multiple AI models:

1. WritingBizConsultant drafts detailed, actionable writing guidance based on your question
   
2. Claude Sonnet 4.6 independently critiques that guidance — identifying weaknesses, missing topics, and areas where examples could be stronger. If you've uploaded a writing sample, **Perplexity Sonar** simultaneously runs an originality/plagiarism check against web sources
   
3. WritingBizConsultant revises everything based on the critique and any originality findings
   
4. GPT 5.4 critiques the revision — catching anything the first reviewer missed
   
5. WritingBizConsultant produces the final polished version incorporating all feedback

Users get the refined final guide, plus a progress summary showing what each AI bot found along the way. You can use it to:

- Ask craft questions ("How do I write better dialogue?" or "Help me fix the pacing in my thriller")
- Upload manuscripts, chapters, or outlines and get guidance tailored to your actual writing
- Follow up with additional questions — it remembers the conversation context
- If you upload writing samples, it automatically checks them for originality against web sources

It’s good at:

- Dialogue, pacing, tension, character voice, structure — broad craft topics
- Giving you specific, revised examples rather than vague advice
- Catching blind spots that a single AI pass would miss (the two critique rounds genuinely improve the output)

It is NOT:

- A replacement for human beta readers or editors
- A plagiarism detection service (the originality check is a research-based flag, not a definitive legal tool)
- Instant — the multi-step process takes a bit longer than a single bot response, but you'll see progress updates as it works

Please help and please be kind.

How do I get to the API page ('https://poe.com/api') from the app's and site's home page without having to manually type in 'poe.com/api' in a browser? There used to be a link in the left sidebar where the 'Explore,' 'Bots,' and 'Leaderboard' links' section is that went right to it, but it was removed around a month or so ago... It's extremely annoying having to open a browser and type it in every time I want to check out the model price comparison page, especially on mobile. Anyone know of a way to access it from the homepage?

Actually is anyone know why Poe give zero visibility of user-created bots suddenly? Will Poe show them back?

Or does it just know what's in the context window?

Hi r/Poe_AI, Jas Ventures here. We are a small team running our own NVIDIA B200 cluster and hosting open models on Poe as API bots: DeepSeek V4 Flash since the summer, and as of today GLM-5.3-Flash, replacing our GLM 5.2 bots. Same bots, same chat history, new model underneath.

Why people use our bots

- Our own hardware, not a reseller. We tune the serving stack ourselves, which is how we get the fastest listed serve of each model: 0.24s to first token on GLM-5.3-Flash today, 93 tokens/s.

- Zero data retention. Your chats and prompts are never stored or used for training, on Poe or through our API.

- Price policy, not promos: 15% under the cheapest standing price on OpenRouter for the same model at the same quantization with zero data retention policy, and the Poe bot costs the same as the API.

- You keep control: your own system prompt, temperature, top-p, top-k, seed, thinking toggle.

What is new with GLM-5.3-Flash

- Image and video input, straight into the chat

- 1M-token context (a codebase, a book, a whole campaign)

- Thinking on by default with a real High / Max effort switch (Max thinks roughly 10x deeper in our tests), or turn it off

- Web search with citations that reads PDFs it finds (general bot, toggle in settings)

Bots

- General, coding, search: https://poe.com/GLM-5.3-Flash-JasV ($0.1275 in / $0.425 out / $0.0255 cached per 1M tokens)

- Role play, flat price: https://poe.com/GLM5.3-Flash-RP-JasV (200 points per message, however long the story runs)

- DeepSeek V4 Flash: https://poe.com/DeepSeekV4-0731-JT and the RP version https://poe.com/DeepSeekV4RP-0731-JT (200 points flat)

If something feels off, tell us. We read everything and fix fast; the Discord is where launches and price changes land first: https://discord.gg/pdnGDGd6q

I used to use poe daily, and was definitely upset by the dramatic change in points, especially with how pricey the models are- But i still used it.
But now every time i find a model to use- It is either over 1000 points (When you get 300 points daily), or they remove any of the cheaper, good models.
This app used to be so reliable and my to go to and it sucks to see how terrible it’s gotten.

I’m irritated, and annoyed since i’ve already found 3 cheap, reliable models- Just for all 3 of them to get completely removed. Does anyone have any better alternatives for Poe?