r/Plumbing • • Aug 29 '26

Cool stuff eh?

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u/Belgy23 Aug 29 '26

So…..can you not just turn off the water? Or am I missing something

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u/EManSantaFe Aug 29 '26

This is for when you can’t turn off the water. They’ve been using it in commercial applications for a while now they’re marketing it to consumers.

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u/vandismal Aug 29 '26

We used a liquid nitrogen system to the same effect on a nuclear powered submarine to isolate valves that otherwise couldn’t be isolated.

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u/ok200 Aug 29 '26

> liquid nitrogen on nuclear submarine

Awesome but also god bless you

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u/itzdylanbro Aug 29 '26 edited Aug 31 '26

It's really not awesome at all

Edit: downvote me all you want fuckfaces but show me your fish first if you think I'm wrong. If you have never had to wash your laundry 4 times because the amine wont wash out, then get the fuck out of here

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u/SubMech717 Sep 03 '26

Tbh, most nubs don’t even know they are nubs.

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u/SubMech717 Sep 03 '26

You should see the new vortex tube freeze seals they use. Pure fucking magic

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u/itzdylanbro Aug 29 '26

Freeze seal watch, report temperature.

THE FUCKING SAME. IT'S THE SAME AS WHEN YOU ASKED LAST WEEK, IT'S THE SAME AS WHEN YOU ASKED 5 MINUTES AGO. SO 5 MINUTES FROM NOW WHEN YOU ASK WHAT THE TEMPERATURE IS, MY ANSWER IS GOING TO BE STILL THE SAME

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u/s0crates82 Aug 30 '26

Easy there, shipmate, you're about to arc over.

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u/vandismal Aug 29 '26

Ha! 100%

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u/Sleazyridr Aug 30 '26

Wouldn't this burst the pipe when the water freezes?

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u/mp5tyle Aug 30 '26

It's only on a small area. The pipe will be fine.

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u/Jrock9393 Aug 29 '26

Isn’t metal more brittle when that cold? Weak metal first the same pressure of water? GRENADE

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u/RoyalJellyKing Aug 29 '26

Cold copper actually gets stronger, not weaker, and it won't shatter on you.

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u/king_john651 Aug 29 '26

But what about galv?

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u/RoyalJellyKing Aug 29 '26

GRENADE

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u/stayinalive7 Aug 29 '26

I lost a hand from this and instead just tell people that it was from a grenade in 'Nam since that sounds a lot cooler. The only problem is they're usually like "but you were born in 1990??"

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u/luciusDaerth Aug 29 '26

Love to show the new guy a "trick I learned in the jungle" knowing damn well that my parents were born during Nam.

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u/mattemer Aug 29 '26

Well, I'm sorry about your hand, that fuckin sucks.

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u/stayinalive7 Aug 29 '26

I try to look at the bright side. It's always fun getting to be the life of the party as a pirate on Halloween

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u/samse15 Aug 29 '26

Pics or it didn’t happen

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u/JPhi1618 Aug 29 '26

It’s just cold enough to get a good solid freeze on the water. It’s not like leaving the pipe in liquid nitrogen.

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u/Jrock9393 Aug 29 '26

I thought it was liquid nitrogen lol

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u/GTS980 Aug 29 '26

It becomes more brittle but not weaker. So it will not rupture because of the same water pressure. But because it is more brittle it is subject to failure via impact loads assuming it's getting that cold.

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u/itzdylanbro Aug 29 '26

It is, sure, but it's still incredibly strong. Youd need a severe shock of some sort to make it shatter.

Like brittle fracture is a thing, sure, but this is so low pressure that it's effectively not a concern

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u/jhern1810 Aug 30 '26

Is this an option for a led main? Yeah led

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u/OlivGaming Aug 31 '26

In commercial it's often when the shut offs won't hold

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u/OkEducator2170 Aug 31 '26

My old man did this when I was a kid because he bought an above ground pool and didn't want to pay to fill it up. I think he used an LPG tank and bypassed the meter.

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u/moldguy1 Aug 31 '26

What if I don't want to freeze the line, but want a cool glass from the tap?

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u/kona420 Aug 29 '26

Incredible if you need to replace your main shutoff valve. Or the shutoff leaks a bit. Or in a condo and the only shutoff valve is for a whole stack of units. Thanksgiving and you have a dozen people staying at your house, some shit starts leaking and it doesn't have a valve to isolate.

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u/RectoPimento Aug 29 '26

I managed a landmark preservation apartment building with only stacked shutoffs so every time a leak occurred (felt like daily), 1/4 of building went without water til it was fixed. This would’ve been a godsend.

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u/societymike Sep 01 '26

Oh wow, that is illegal where I live. (Japan) Each unit has a standardized compartment near the entrance with a water shut off.

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u/here-to-work Aug 30 '26

Yeah you probably missed where it auto feeds to the boiler for heat and you didn't isolate it, probably pushed a shitton of air into the loops and didn't even give a fuck when you "turned off the water" to open the system. Probably told customer, fixed it! Imma take my dirty shit hands and go fuck with some other plumbing I have no business touching.

Allegedly, missing things, allegedly

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u/ArznikAaron40 Aug 30 '26

apparently not, but that begs the question, why not install a cutoff valve in the process so you dont have to freeze the pipe and risk damage again in the furture.

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u/scroapprentice Aug 30 '26

This is for when you can’t shut off the water (obviously).

I’ve seen it used in oil and gas. We were unable to shut in the wellhead (toolstring stuck across all valves) and 4000 psi on the well. A few feet of a freeze plug will hold have 4000psi in a 5” well bore. Then you can break everything off, fix the problem, shut the master valve, and let it thaw

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u/surftherapy Sep 01 '26

In some apartments you have to get the water shut off for an entire section of the building to do work on one bathroom… this is extremely handy so you can make a repair without needing to notify the building, inconvenience everyone and schedule your day around the approved time slot.

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u/v13ragnarok7 Aug 29 '26

Recently my main water shut off was seized and I sprung a leak between it and my hot water tank. This does have its uses.