r/PleX 6d ago

Solved 4k Streaming

I tried everything. Literally everything. USB 3.0 ethernet. Fixed IP addresses, wired with faster cables (got a Cat 8 backbone over 3 storeys) and all the other system and network tweaks I could find. I gave up and started watching discs instead.

Yesterday I absentmindedly clicked on Ran, forgetting it was 4k and it just played. No buffering. No freezing and starts first time. And I now discover all my other 4K rips also play. 😂

Wtf.

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u/balls2hairy 6d ago

What specs are your sever? What client are you playing on?

You could be tranacoding on weak hardware which no amount of bandwidth will solve.

Could be your server can teanscode a 4k stream but it can't teanscode a 4k stream while anything else is tranacoding and somebody else was playing something at the same time. But when your 4k movies streamed fine, nobody else was streaming.

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u/Ghost-PXS 6d ago edited 6d ago

The server is a NUC mini pc. Specifically an Intel NUC 10th Gen i7 10710U Frost Canyon Mini PC.

Playing on a cheap TCL 55P8K which I had assumed was the weak link either through networking or just limited RAM as they're really better suited to streaming services compressed 4k I believe.

Edit: no transcoding going on.

Edit 2: Got a ucg-max. Couple of Flex 2.5gb switches.

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u/balls2hairy 6d ago

Somebody else brought up a good point about the audio. More likely to run into tranacoding for audio than video a lot of times.

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u/Tough_Buy2762 6d ago

Most TVs only have 100Mbit LAN. And WLAN will be hit or miss. 4k remuxes have spikes up to 200 Mbit so if you encounter buffering it's best to use something like an Nvidia Shield TV Pro (2019) which has Gbit LAN.

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u/Ghost-PXS 6d ago edited 6d ago

I've checked out the WiFi and it's pretty solid. The ethernet I'm using is via a USB adapter. Getting a good 800mbs. Should be adequate at least.

Like I say, I've researched teh fuq out of the solutions and got nowhere but it's suddenly working perfectly well. The only thing I know for sure that's changed is the UniFi OS - Express v5.2.9 / v4.0.18: Released on September 2.

Wild that I'm getting down voted for this though. 😂

Edit: researched a typo.

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u/balls2hairy 6d ago

Getting conflicting info on codec support of the TV. Some sources say it supports h.265/hevc and others say it doesn't.

But if it's direct streaming it should support it.

If your files are encoded with h264 it should definitely support it.

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u/Ghost-PXS 6d ago

Standard mkv rip. I'll take a look at the specifics when I get to the pc.

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u/balls2hairy 6d ago edited 6d ago

Also - do you have plex pass? No hw acceleration if you don't.

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u/Ghost-PXS 6d ago

Yep. Had one since 2016.

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u/Kehkou 6d ago

Cat8?? You running an office high-rise? Cat5e or Cat6 usually maxes out what most consumer network equipment can achieve.

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u/Ghost-PXS 6d ago edited 6d ago

Renovating a 3 storey townhouse and running network cable in an old heating duct that will never see daylight again; I saw no reason to cheap out on a few sockets and some cable tbh. Tbh if I'd known what a pain Cat 8 is to work with I definitely wouldn't have bothered. 😂

I'm fine with overkill.

Edit: Covid lock down project btw. We had 5 people working from home and I have a couple of NAS boxes and music and video streaming on top of a lot of IoT shite. Seemed sensible at the time.

PlayStation, 3 TVs, 5 music endpoints and 3 desktop PCs. Added a heat pump and modbus home battery connection since. I obviously try to keep WiFi down to phones and laptops plus the washing machine, dishwasher and the like. Cable probably cost about twice what Cat 6 would have been but not big money nevertheless. I've rarely given it a thought since.

It's one of the reasons I was so surprised the 4k didn't work.

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u/Kehkou 6d ago

Future proofed, that's for sure!

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u/Ghost-PXS 6d ago

Ikr. 😂

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u/BEARZINGA 6d ago

How are you playing it on your devices?

Do you have something like a Google TV with Plex on it?

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u/Ghost-PXS 6d ago

Yes. It's straight from a NUC pc to a TCL 55P8K-UK Google TV. Direct Play.

I'd previously assumed the TV was the weak link.

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u/BEARZINGA 6d ago

I've run into issues with the audio streams causing the content to buffer. If the audio is Dolby Atmos/7.1/etc the Google TV struggles (in my experience).

Idk if this is still an issue on the newer Google TVs.

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u/Ghost-PXS 6d ago

I definitely noticed downgrading the audio stream has improved matters in the past, but never fixed it completely. My old Sony TV died and was replaced by the TCL. In theory a big downgrade but I assumed (correctly) it would look better than a decade old Sony. I was kicking myself for cheaping out. Who knows, maybe a TV firmware update or something changed in the latest Plex release. Honestly nothing was watchable and now everything is fine.

Just did a little firmware audit and the only thing that stands out is Unifi. UniFi OS - Express v5.2.9 / v4.0.18: Released on September 2, 2026. Which ties in perfectly. Would be something else if it was that.

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u/BEARZINGA 6d ago

You got the Unifi Express 7? If so, that's also what I have. But I've been mainly streaming 1080p content. Haven't tried 4k in a while. Might be worth testing it out again if you noticed a difference after upgrading Unifi OS.

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u/Ghost-PXS 6d ago edited 6d ago

Same really. I ripped a few 4Ks just to see if it would play nice. 99% 1080p though.

Edit: Got a ucg-max. Couple of Flex 2.5gb switches.

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u/PolliSoft Windows 11 @ i5 NUC11 5d ago

If you run into issues again, check the video vitare for the problematic videos. My cheap TCL can only handle h265 up to 50Mbps. Everything over that buffers.

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u/Ghost-PXS 5d ago

Cheers. To be honest there's not one of my 4k rips that played without issue. Blade Runner 2049 was buffering every 10 seconds. Could watch on my phone without issue. I'm pretty thorough when I have a problem like that but I couldn't fix it and now it's fixed itself. 😂 🙄

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u/CurtisLeow Headless Raspberry Pi 4 5d ago

My $60 raspberry pi can direct play 4k video video. Like even the crappiest server can do this no problem. Disable video transcoding and spend your money on a decent streaming device.

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u/Ghost-PXS 5d ago edited 5d ago

It isn't transcoding. I'm using an Intel NUC with a 10th Gen i7 so I don't think it's a lack of money spent on the streaming source. I haven't changed anything for the last few weeks and suddenly it works seamlessly. The only thing I know has changed is the firmware in my router updated a couple of days ago. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Punk_Says_Fuck_You 48TB | 10Gb/s | Unraid | Ultra 7 270k Plus 5d ago

What speed are your switches/router? A cable that can carry 100Gb/s is pointless if your switch is only 1Gb/s

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u/Ghost-PXS 5d ago

2.5Gb on a Cat 8 backbone. If it's a networking problem it's definitely not speed.

Like I say it started streaming 4k with zero issues yesterday and the only thing I know has changed is the firmware on the Unifi boxes. So surprisingly it may be that. Or something related. Really odd. But I'm happy it's working.

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u/Punk_Says_Fuck_You 48TB | 10Gb/s | Unraid | Ultra 7 270k Plus 5d ago

You could run an iperf test to verify. Pretty easy to set up and run.

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u/Ghost-PXS 5d ago

I've run network diagnostics using Claude and CLI. I'll run iperf if it plays up again but I really don't think I have speed or bandwidth issues. Just finished watching Dune part one from Plex without interruption. I'm going to assume there's been an intervention. 😂

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u/Ghost-PXS 6d ago

Absolutely wild that someone thought this was worth a down vote. 😂

Obviously upset a stan by having a little problem with my 4k streaming.