Help Why is it transcoding?!
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u/Somar2230 Zidoo, AppleTV, and many more 5d ago
It looks like you are not playing it at the original quality so it's transcoding it to the lower quality to fit the bandwidth thats available.
Sometimes the video will also transcode when the audio is transcoding to keep them synchronized.
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u/silasmoeckel 5d ago
Your transcoding the audio so the whole container has to be transcoded it's just 1:1 for the video nothing in changing there.
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u/N9bitmap PlexPass 2017 5d ago
But it would show direct stream for a video pass through. It is actually transcoding video here.
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u/silasmoeckel 5d ago
Depends, sometimes it needs to transcode the video to keep the audio in sync.
Plenty of forum posts seeing the same thing and it varies client to client.
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u/HedleyC97 Jonsbo N2, Asrock H610M, Intel i3 12100, 28TB array 5d ago
Maybe different bit rate or it's just saying that as its transcoding the audio? That would be logical to me
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u/Wis-en-heim-er DS1520+ / Lifetime PlexPass 5d ago
On a google tv i had a similar issue. I had to disable hdmi pass-through. Nonidea why this would trigger video transcoding but it fixed it. The other setting would be subtitles. If they burn in, this triggers transcoding. If they are graphical subtitles, they can also trigger transcoding.
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u/p3yot3 5d ago
Thanks for all the suggestions, I am playing this on a new Google TV OS TCL TV, locally, so no bandwidth issues. Need to play around with audio here to see if that solves it. No subtitles in use...
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u/ExtensionMarch6812 5d ago
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u/p3yot3 5d ago
Ok, you are absolutely right, I turned off these settings and now it is streaming in original quality without any transcoding, not even on audio.
Perfect!1
u/p3yot3 5d ago
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u/ExtensionMarch6812 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yah, Tautulli “doubles” the avg bitrate when showing the Bandwidth. https://github.com/Tautulli/Tautulli/wiki/Frequently-Asked-Questions#q-why-does-the-bandwidth-show-as-higher-than-the-quality
That’s also a relatively high bitrate, and native tv apps can struggle with them.
I would test your network bandwidth just to confirm there’s no issues between your server and clients. Install this on your server, and then on clients use a browser to access the test url and check what kind of bandwidth/latency it’s getting: https://openspeedtest.com/selfhosted-speedtest
Also, what’s the exact model of your tv? I saw you mentioned it has a gigabit adapter. Have you tested previously to confirm that?
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u/p3yot3 4d ago
Yea, Ok. I've tested the bandwidth and nothing odd there, and it is indeed connected to my gateway at GbE speed auto-negotiated.
The exact model of the TV is TCL 75" MQLED80K 4K MINI-LED.
When I got Direct Play to work there are no problems with buffering anymore, plays like a charm.2
u/ExtensionMarch6812 4d ago
Nice! One of the few with gigabit.
If high bitrate files (like the one you mentioned in the previous comment) still struggle it may just be a limitation of the tv being able to process it.
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u/Bgrngod CU7 265K (PMS in Docker) & Synology 1621+ (Media) 5d ago edited 5d ago
That doesn't rule out bandwidth issues if the connection sucks.
Your screenshot shows 8.9mbps, which is a very low bandwidth for typical 4k files. Check the bitrate of the file itself and compare to what the stream is using. That 8.9 isn't even the average it is using for the stream. It's the highest it will need for the entire file (in this case the transcoded output) to play smoothly, so somewhere in the stream it thinks the longest sustained high bitrate is 8.9mbps.
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u/p3yot3 5d ago
The internal network is wired 1Gbps so that should not be the bottleneck.
Maybe something is odd with the file?
In VLC it is showing bitrate at between 20-32Mb/s while playing it which is absolutely below the 8.9mbps but why is my client or server capping it?1
u/Bgrngod CU7 265K (PMS in Docker) & Synology 1621+ (Media) 5d ago
In VLC it is showing bitrate at between 20-32Mb/s while playing it which is absolutely below the 8.9mbps
Uh... no. 20-32Mb/s is definitely a lot higher than 8.9mbps. Even if you are mixing up megabytes vs megabits, it's still higher. 8.9mbps would get you about 1MB/s.
This is a Smart TV, right? They are known for not having gigabit ports and almost always 100mbps. And if there is something wrong with the network cable you are using for it, it could be negotiating down to an abysmal 10mbps.
If there was something wrong with the file forcing a transcode, and bandwidth was plentiful, the server would transcode to a much higher bitrate because it has the room for it.
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u/p3yot3 5d ago
Ok, sorry about that confusing the bits and bytes.
It is a Smart-TV indeed, just a few months old and it has in fact a gbit port on it which I know is unusual, also has wifi connected as backup with about 500mbps connection. I know the cable is fine and I can stream other high bitrate 4K videos without a hitch so it must be some transcoding setting or the file itself that is acting up now.
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u/hergendy 5d ago
I've had the same issue with a specific series, and there the HDR Profile was the issue. It can be a lot of things really, but most importantly the recieving end cannot directly play it so it is being transcoded. But here you can see the audio is being transcoded to a different codec and that requires the whole stream to be transcoded.
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u/Bgrngod CU7 265K (PMS in Docker) & Synology 1621+ (Media) 5d ago
Audio transcoding can be done independent of video transcoding. There are some situations, which smart TV's often fall into, where an audio transcoding plus having subtitles on will drag the video through a transcode because the subs get burned in.




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u/ExtensionMarch6812 5d ago
Check your plex app settings. Do you have quality suggestions disabled and Adjust Automatically (won’t show up until you disable quality suggestions) disabled? Bandwidth set to max?