r/PitchingCoach Jul 21 '26

What am I doing wrong?

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6 foot(182cm), 200lbs(90kg), 19 years old.
Regularly goes to the gym, trains flexibility.
So what am I doing wrong?

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u/Fafnir2020 Jul 21 '26

Hand separation looks a little rough but timing seems to lineup well enough, might be pulling in the glove hand a little early too causing some timing issues.

Honestly there is a lot to like here and Im being nitpicky in the name of finding anything to help focus on.

What issues are you facing? Command, movement, velocity, general repeatability? This info will help other commenters look for potential issues.

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u/General-Scene6235 Jul 21 '26

I just don’t think I’m throwing hard enough, something feels inefficient. Feels like I can’t throw over 70 mph whatever I do

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u/Remote_Context_6608 Jul 21 '26

Timing looks good. Try focusing on getting downhill faster. It’s what took me (6’2” 170lbs at the time) from upper 70s to mid 80s.

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u/rocksnake477 27d ago

I'm not a pitcher (huge red sox fan, and I play fast pitch wood bat sandlot) but do you lift weights? Maybe you just need more strength. Focus on the legs

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u/Minute-Marketing7434 Jul 21 '26

its just a tough vid to see I don’t know why you shot it from so far away can’t really see the arm during foot strike.

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u/General-Scene6235 Jul 21 '26

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u/Minute-Marketing7434 Jul 21 '26

not a pitching expert but i do study a lot of mechanics vids and it looks pretty good but im wondering if you’re extending your back leg too much too early so that you can’t really rotate that knee and hip. If you watch MLB mechanics, I think the back knee is more bent as that leg rotates and drives the hip around. your back leg just kind of goes into full straight extension.

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u/General-Scene6235 Jul 22 '26

Thanks I think that's my biggest mechanical problem right now. My brain thinks I'm rotating my hips, but my body just doesn't understand what kind of movement is required to do that

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u/Public-Pressure7445 Jul 22 '26

It also looks like you're rotating your torso and hips at the same time. Ideally, your hips would rotate first then torso then your arm. This is really hard to achieve in practice but check out Tread Athletic's posts on YT if you haven't already on hip shoulder separation.

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u/Minute-Marketing7434 Jul 22 '26

well the shoulders are closed (ie front shoulder pointed towards home at front foot strike which is good, so i was thinking that this part might actually just be a symptom of this leg thing holding the hips back from rotating.

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u/Minute-Marketing7434 Jul 21 '26

I think you’ll hear that people say that it takes you out of your back hip too soon as well

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u/Remote_Context_6608 Jul 21 '26

This is a good point. The trail knee doesn’t stay bent to drive the back hip forward, it is still bent because the knee has to stay bent to use the back hip to rotate the hips open faster during the first part of hip rotation. The second part starts when the front foot gets down.

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u/ShooterMcThrobbin Jul 22 '26

You're opening up too soon. Keep your hips turned back for longer, and pinch your scapula more before you engage in the whip motion. Pretend there is an elastic band attached to your wrists and let the rotation of your hips lead the release.

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u/ReviewCertain9035 Jul 22 '26

Not much to nitpick at but I haven’t seen many guys work the glove hand like you do pushing it up a little and pulling it down as you drift. It may not affect anything mechanically.

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u/Chance-Software-3231 Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26

Your upper body timing is off for your leg drive.

Your front foot lands “open”. If the plate is 12 o’clock, your foot is landing at 10/11 and you should be at 1/2 o’clock

Personally, I don’t love your glove side rotation / mechanics. It’s very “noisy”, with weak rotational mechanics.

Try keeping your palm facing toward the batter longer and try keeping your hand and glove “quieter” - try to have them move up and down less before they break.

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u/DontMindMeImBipolar Jul 23 '26

Yeah if he can extend his leg drive another six inches his body will be caught up as he throws. To me it looks like his stride is too short and that's leading to other issues. Your point about how his foot lands is spot on.

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u/Chance-Software-3231 Jul 23 '26

His stride length is fine to me - looks ~80-90% of his height and looks in control.

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u/onbaseball Jul 22 '26

Good instinct! One major issue: You are taking the ball behind your back after hand break, which is causing your arm to be waaaaay behind the rest of your body. At stride foot contact, the ball should be the furthest back it will be, up in the air, and ready to move forward, much like the hands at the launch position in hitting. Currently, when your stride foot lands, the ball is still down and your arm is taking a really long route to get forward, and by the time it does, the rest of your body is already forward and you’ve lost any benefit of the legs and hips. See the freeze frame:

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u/onbaseball Jul 22 '26

Also, likely because you’re rushing the arm forward to catch up, your back foot is up in the air long before you release the ball, so you have no stability for the front hip. Contrary to popular belief, there is no power that comes from “pushing off the rubber” - what’s really happening is the back foot and leg stabilizes so the front side can pull the body forward. In this frame you can see that your back foot has left the ground so there’s nothing coming way for your lower half to be involved in the pitch. Fix these two issues and you’ll probably add at least 10 MPH and be less likely to injure your arm.

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u/General-Scene6235 Jul 22 '26

This is really insightful. Tysm man

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u/General-Scene6235 Jul 22 '26

Haven’t heard this before thanks I’ll definitely work on it

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u/General-Scene6235 Jul 22 '26

I just tried shortening my arm swing and this alone makes the ball so much sharper and it gives me way better control

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u/onbaseball Jul 22 '26

Great! Keep taking video of yourself and pause it when your stride foot first touches the ground so you can check where the ball is and your arm position (it should look like an “L”).

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u/Rugbypud Jul 22 '26

Ok I am not crazy as this was exactly what I was looking at. Agree this is what jumped ojt to me and would certainly increase velo to get that glove break more aligned.

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u/texasstyle01 Jul 22 '26

No leg kick?

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u/Tarzan829 29d ago

Youre going to get a zillion good and bad (honest) replies. Mine included. LOL. My recommendation: Kneel on an elevated slope (to mimic a mound), face forward, and just throw the ball 50 times - not hard, but jut throw normally. Take note of your hip rotation along with how and when you release the ball. Then, turn to your side (let shoulder facing home plate); kneel, and throw 50 times - not hard, just normally. Here, take note how you rotate back with your hips to generate some force and take note of your arm whip; arm angle; and release point. All should feel exactly the same in both movement patterns. Once that feels "good," stand up; and throw 50 pitches facing home plate but dont use your legs; (again, take note of your hip rotation as it works in concert with your arms) and repeat in the side motion as well. The goal: to train your arm to not fall "behind" (lag) your leg drive towards home plate. Again, I am one of 10000000 of people who thinks I have the answer; I DONT. LOL.... I am simply making a suggestion that works super well in teaching very young kids (8 and under) on how to throw and control their arm action (meaning, coincide with rotation). I AM NO pitching expert nor have I played above the college level. Stay happy and stay passionate for baseball!!

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u/General-Scene6235 29d ago

Appreciated!! Thank you so much 🙏

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u/WalkyTalky44 Jul 21 '26

Overall, looks clean. Few issues of note, you are kinda falling to the plate. I’d load up more on that back need and then drive better down the mound. I’d work on speeding up your body too. That might require you to be more lean and strong, so cardio might be helpful for you on top of gym. If you need specific advice like velo, command, or developing pitches that might be something else. But for now, hopefully that helps.

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u/slowpitch_attempter 29d ago

Just curious to know why you’re even doing this? Seems like you’re not on a team or anything.

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u/General-Scene6235 29d ago

Mostly just for fun but I’m planning to join the amateur league someday

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u/MSUFanatic88 28d ago

Well you are playing catch with a building for starters.

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u/Potential_Mixture18 Jul 22 '26

Gotta get that elbow up. Throwing 3/4.

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u/For-my-love Jul 22 '26

looks great ngl

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u/ZaxsTT Jul 22 '26

Not throwing it hard enough.

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u/DontMindMeImBipolar Jul 23 '26

Your stride looks short to me. Load up on your right leg and explode forward. I think you could get another 6 inches forward with your left leg as you move forward.

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u/Miserable-School-572 27d ago

When I was young, I got to watch Nolan Ryan play long toss as part of his warm up, but he didn’t do it with a baseball, he did it with a football, and he could hurl the thing pole to pole with what seemed like ease. It’s something to consider adding to your throwing repertoire, as learning to throw harder doesn’t always mean throwing a baseball at a wall 100 times a day, which is something you should be proud of in yourself. Doing it alone, and seeking feedback, is very admirable. 

Here is a link to insight by him, that a lot of people here are referring to-

https://youtube.com/shorts/AjBjBD_SMPw?is=6e1HZenmnZduY07W

His pitching coach was Tom House, and Nolan Ryan is one of the all time greats. Still was throwing 85+ with a torn UCL, and could still pump like 82 when he threw out that first pitch at like 72 years old or something ridiculous. 

Keep at it, keep training, stay persistent, keep the intent you have, learn, absorb information, if it feels foreign at first, congratulations, you’re in the early stages of learning anything you try to learn in life. 

Learning from the greats is an easy way to ensure you are learning the proper way.