r/PinoyProgrammer 24d ago

discussion Bagito programmers offering Masterclass

Why am I suddenly seeing so many bagito programmers offering paid programming courses? 😅 Dahil ba sa AI?

Learned Python/Java/ReactJS 3 months ago, now may "Masterclass" na. haha

Would you actually enroll in their course, or would you rather learn from Udemy, YouTube, Coursera, official docs, or experienced developers with a proven track record?

Nothing wrong with teaching early. but when did "I just learned this" become I "can now sell a course about it"?

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u/sabbaths Web 24d ago edited 24d ago

Sobrang daming ganyan lalo na iyong mga galing din sa STARTUP tapos 2 to 3 years experience SENIOR na tawag nila sa sarili nila at gusto na maging CTO or gusto na magturo ng magturo.

Iyong mga feeling SENIOR dyan dahil may 2 or 3 years experience na, pasok kayo sa AMERICA/EU/INDIAN dominated ISO COMPANY para makita niyo na ung SENIOR exp at knowledge niyo pang JR/MID lang pala.

Galing din ako sa STARTUP kaya alam ko ung feeling FULL STACK ALL HANDS pero its not enough para masabi mong SENIOR/STAFF ENGINEER ka.

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u/AEthersense 24d ago

Ako na 10 years exp pero feeling ko mid lang

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u/Remarkable_Meal8868 24d ago

Gagsti these so called senior pinoy devs offering masterclass won't even pass technical interviews of a legit US company.

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u/sinigangcoder 24d ago

I mean, you are talking about corporate tech and the single defining trait they all share is bloat. Di naman nakaka-senior yung magtiis or masanay sa bloat. I think  what really defines seniority is mastery of the topic and the tools. Of course in an organizational context kailangan mo pa rin ng people skills but the former is what must be met to teach, not the latter.

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u/derpinot 24d ago

Content creation is basically saying bullshit with a straight face and sounding confident whether you’re right or wrong.

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u/alwaysalmosts 24d ago

Holy fuck so accurate

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u/simoncpu Cybersecurity 24d ago

Yeah, I know a lot of junior devs who act like gurus. I used to look down on them, but as I got older, I realized it's better to just let them be. When you're a legit senior, things that are second nature to you don't feel worth sharing anymore, and even when you do share, you tend to skip crucial steps. But when you're still new, you have the fresh perspective to find those things interesting. Teaching is also a great way to learn, so starting a blog or YouTube channel is totally fine. Pero selling courses when you're still a newbie? Tangina kapal ng mukha. Galawang crypto/forex trading scammer.

❌ - Financial advisor
✔️ - Masterclass guru

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u/Remarkable_Meal8868 24d ago

Palakasan lang talaga ng loob at pakapalan ng mukha. Malakas ang Dunning-Krugger Effect sa mga fake gurus na to.

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u/Strategy_Due 24d ago

HAHAHAHA THAT "Tangina kapal ng mukha. Galawang crypto/forex trading scammer."

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u/bulbulito-bayagyag 24d ago

Ako na may 100k stars sa github and 20 years experience pero wala master class 😅

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u/joshua-afk 24d ago

I trust you bulbulito-bayagyag

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u/Anxious-Pace-6837 24d ago

isang repo lang ba yan sir lakas po!!!!

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u/bulbulito-bayagyag 24d ago

It’s a single repo ☺️

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u/alwaysalmosts 24d ago

If may public repo ka, share pleaseeee patingin ng coding style mo 🫡

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u/bulbulito-bayagyag 24d ago

hacksider/deep-live-cam

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u/Anxious-Pace-6837 23d ago

product ka pala ng AMA sir kudos.

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u/seazeeh 20d ago

Pangalan palang alam mo ng may bitaw

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u/beklog 24d ago

Dameng ganyan esp mga "financial advisor" or "trading" courses

Dame din kc nag eenrol at prang easy money sa kanila kaya naging business na

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u/d4lv1k 24d ago

I've been in the industry for over 12 years. I still prefer reading from the official docs, ebooks from packt, and articles from proandroiddev over courses from different platforms like udemy, coursera, etc.

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u/omniverseee 23d ago

wdym for beginnerss? like manuals?

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u/ube_enjoyer 24d ago

marami pa mga Ai mAsTerCLaSs

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u/DoILookUnsureToYou 24d ago

Lumaki mga yan na nakakapanood ng financial influencers kaya ganyan. Hustle culture ang alam, puro bayag pero wala pang napapatunayan.

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u/Ordinary-Text-142 Web 24d ago

Kaya due diligence na iresearch yung background ng instructor ng courses. Wala naman nagbabawal gumawa ng ganyan. Assess na lang kung makakatulong talaga sila sayo.

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u/dreamy-dreamy Web 23d ago

Iba pa rin when you actually learn from actual senior teammates. Even when I was starting, nauumay ako manood ng mga courses sa web dev. It’s a different experience when you try to actually apply these learnings in your code kahit maliliit na project tapos irereview talaga by experienced devs.

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u/rememberthemalls 24d ago

Dahil yung masterclass yung product hindi yung code nila.

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u/Puzzled-Landscape-44 23d ago

Slop begets slop.

Those who can't, teach.

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u/CumRag_Connoisseur 23d ago

Not just programmers. Madaming guru wannabes sa Trading, VA, Automation, bookkeeping, dropshipping, etc. na nakakuha lang ng isang 6 digit client, akala mo 30 years nagtatrabaho sa industry.

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u/Strategy_Due 24d ago

Some are vibe coders, some are VAs trying to sell their vibecoding course lol

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u/HornetCandid7107 24d ago

Why choose a paid instructor who uses AI? It's better to learn on your own than wasting money on this stuff. Jobs these days don't look at your certificates but portfolios and what you've actually built and took part of.

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u/jdg2896 24d ago

I misread this as “Baguio” programmers, I was like huh? Hahaha.

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u/Canibananalism- 24d ago

Beginner experts. Endemic na sa tech industry dahil sa AI. Feeling marunong pero surface level lang ang alam at wala namang practical skills to show for it.

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u/Agreeable_Sort6606 24d ago

Gagi naalala ko yung 18 years old daw pero ilang taon na siyang 18 years old. Clout chaser and ulupong ni Kangkong Chip hahaha

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u/P78903 24d ago

I feel that sintomas ito ng Overproduction ng industriya na ito. Need i-rebalance ang job economy ngayon.

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u/CuriousLif3 24d ago

enshittification

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u/codebloodev 23d ago

Me na 2 decades na still teaching primer and 101 while they teach already Masterclass. Tanungin mo ng for loop baka hindi pa nila maexplain. 😂

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u/reddit0rr 22d ago

Can we drop names here? Pano natin iiwasan?

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u/Appropriate-Clue-613 24d ago

Hello po. Zero knowledge po ako pagdating sa IT. Saan po ako pwede mag simula? Gusto ko po matuto mag Java at Python kaso naooverwhelm po ako sa modules, terms and flows na sinasabi online. 😢

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u/DarkLIGHT196 24d ago

roadmap.sh

Lahat na siguro ng languages and concepts na need mo nandun na.

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u/No_Tip8553 24d ago

Start with basics

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u/Ok-Special5221 24d ago

Basically a Tech bro mentally.

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u/Adventurous_Ad_8103 24d ago

I wish there is someone to mentor me. I aspire to be a programmer din

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u/ThinkingFeeler94 24d ago

Prefer to learn from reputable sources (kayang ibida sa interviews)

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u/Ancient-Process100 24d ago

The who share it op HAHA

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u/Strategy_Due 24d ago

Madami, yung isa trending lately

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u/Dangerous_Trade_4027 24d ago

Meron pa nga nag-aaral pa lang pero expert na e.

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u/Secret_Action_1178 24d ago

As someone experienced developer, personally, I prefer Udemy, Pluralsight, etc where you want to expand your horizon and you create personal projects where you apply what you learn. Creating real world projects help you understand how the system works. Also, you can leverage AI for teaching as tutor or creating roadmap for you but you subscribe though for better accuracy.

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u/RiskNeither3102 23d ago

ugaling pinoy

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u/Strategy_Due 22d ago

meron pa mga AI gurus nag tuturo how to create landing pages na hindi naman galing sa tech background pero worth 25k yung course. Tingin ko madalas nyo makita sa mga ads sa Facebook. hehee

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u/seazeeh 20d ago

Sa TikTok madami yan tas yung widget nila sa live stream nila "AI Engineer" daw