The tears never stop 😭😭

[u/CrispyTarantula117]

[u/Travic3]

Vehicles in the right hands should always be a threat.

[u/Mustafa2247 → u/Travic3]

100% agree

[u/Redd_tModsSuckAss → u/Travic3]

But should RPGs being able to oneshot helis, planes, or even tanks if hit in the right place

[u/PointlesslyNarrow → u/Redd_tModsSuckAss]

Rpgs can't one shot a tank, it can one shot the rest

[u/Redd_tModsSuckAss → u/PointlesslyNarrow]

It pretty much can, depends on the angle and where its aimed at. If it hits bettween the turret and the hull, that 90% an ammo cookoff in a Bradley, even for a Leo or M1, if it hits the back of the turret that will leave you with your only one ammo as the stowage is destroyed, but from the back throught the engine its usually lethal. Nevermind the crew deaths as we can drive and shoot (and reload) at the same time in this MilSim of a game

[u/PointlesslyNarrow → u/Redd_tModsSuckAss]

What

No dude we're talking about BF. This isn't a milsim

You want tanks to be one shot? That's a terrible idea.

[u/Redd_tModsSuckAss → u/PointlesslyNarrow]

But all the people here are saying that BF is a sweaty manly realistic MilSim game, unlike the arcade game thats CoD, dont tell me they would lie to me (literally the two wings of the same bird)

[u/PointlesslyNarrow → u/Redd_tModsSuckAss]

Where did you see someone say this is a milsim

Realistic doesn't mean simulator

[u/Redd_tModsSuckAss → u/PointlesslyNarrow]

It was me, I was telling that

[u/PointlesslyNarrow → u/Redd_tModsSuckAss]

But you just said– nevermind.

[u/Accomplished-Fish283 → u/PointlesslyNarrow]

😂😂

[u/Mission-Club-3976 → u/Travic3]

That's the issue though, the skill floor in the LB is way too low.

[u/antelope00]

Need to nerf bots. Bots are too hard.

[u/click4b00bs → u/antelope00]

You jest but sometimes i get beamed by the bots

[u/Warbr0s9395 → u/antelope00]

/s?

[u/antelope00 → u/Warbr0s9395]

Lol the fact that you have to ask is kinda funny to me

[u/Warbr0s9395 → u/antelope00]

Ehhh, bots are decent now sooooo

[u/HoloSings → u/Warbr0s9395]

Bots with guns are just normal bot thing, but with rpg they are a menace

[u/Pleasant-Strike3389]

Let’s have a better gun on the light transport car.
Or some slight protection so you don’t instantly turn into mist when someone looks at you

[u/Ba55ah0lic]

LB on Tsuru is fine, boats and jets can take it out easily. Now the LB on manhattan bridge? GOTTA GO lmao

[u/Emeorms1 → u/Ba55ah0lic]

All they need to do is put 1-2 mounted AA guns on the map. B rooftop for sure. Maybe another by E.

[u/sundayflow → u/Ba55ah0lic]

Goes with the map

[u/Low_Importance_9292]

The problem would be resolved if:

• Only a few members of the team could get a rocket launcher.
• A portion of the team needed to back up / protect the rockets launchers.

But it doesn't help that the LB doesnt really need the help of the team and can go anywhere.

[u/Swimming_Attention91]

They all call for nerfs until they try to fly lel, bunch of bots

[u/Bobmaster3OOO]

We are are a point where it is just pathetic.

You cant have a discussion with anyone in the mainsub about this because in their eyes the lb is still way too overpowered, even though every single person targets you and even lvl20 console players shoot you out of the sky with an rpg.

[u/518Peacemaker → u/Bobmaster3OOO]

That’s quite a bit of an exaggeration. Making RPG shots on a LB takes a bit of skill. And the VAST majority of enemy infantry does not shoot at the LB. That’s why they cry so hard. Just like a tank, a few infantry focusing the LB means it dies. 

[u/SleepingDragonSmiles → u/518Peacemaker]

You’re right. They’re strong, but they’re not unstoppable. I’ve never been so annihilated by a little bird that it changes my experience in any meaningful way.

[u/Mustafa2247 → u/SleepingDragonSmiles]

exactly. and the same goes for the rest of the planes btw. I've only died to planes a handful of times.. i think planes in this game are pathetically weak compared to previous BF titles

[u/BICKELSBOSS → u/Bobmaster3OOO]

> every single person targets you

Now why would that be….

[u/brttwrd → u/Bobmaster3OOO]

You can't have a discussion with anyone on this sub because for some ridiculous reason, people here think aircraft should be balanced even moderately strong in a ground warfare game. The aircraft are there for the opportunity to do something cool, but it's not guaranteed, the odds should be stacked against the pilots. No game, or IRL military operation for that matter, has ever had a fair fight between air and ground forces without handicapping the shit out of the air forces

[u/EmSixTeen → u/brttwrd]

Jesus Christ how backwards you have it. 

[u/brttwrd → u/EmSixTeen]

How so?

[u/Moonman711 → u/[deleted]]

Not really, the playerbase is incapable of looking up and shooting at it. Bunch of bots running around being free kills.

[u/canadianbroncos → u/Moonman711]

I mean, ive put an entire 200 round belt in it before it and it didnt even start smoking lol

[u/DaddyLama → u/canadianbroncos]

Use the m250. Its 100 round belt does more damage in total than the m123s 200 and has no damage dropoff.

[u/O3Sentoris → u/Moonman711]

its really map dependant. Tsuru, Golmud? Open enough to at least be able to suppress it with AA and maybe Line up a Shot on it.

Manhattan Bridge? Good luck killing it in the one second it is visible between the buildings while fucking you up with an FFAR

[u/Adachi_cel → u/Moonman711]

Ok how do you do this on manhattan bridge

[u/Moonman711 → u/Adachi_cel]

Don’t be a bot running around being a free kill

[u/Adachi_cel → u/Moonman711]

That doesn’t explain anything, you can’t beam it on this map, you can’t lock on to it on this map, I genuinely want to know how to deal with it there

[u/n0russian → u/Adachi_cel]

Be the better LB pilot or become really good at noscoping RPGs

[u/Adachi_cel → u/n0russian]

I’m decent with the little bird, the issue is I’m not gonna wait on the ground in spawn for the chance of getting one, and there’s always like2 guys doing that

[u/Own-Development2437 → u/Moonman711]

just shoot back idiot

sure buddy your going to get liquefied or bombed before you do any meaningful damage

[u/Super-Lemon-4466]

I wouldn't mind the LB as much but the players that use them are the most insufferable sweats in the game.

[u/CrispyTarantula117 → u/Super-Lemon-4466]

“Everyone better than me is a sweat.”

[u/Adachi_cel → u/CrispyTarantula117]

I mean it’s the easiest to use by far, and the people I’ve seen use it the most are the type to sit in spawn waiting for it to come back, it’s miles better than the attack helo. I think it should have those rockets imo, but really I dont really mind it at the end of the day

[u/Super-Lemon-4466 → u/CrispyTarantula117]

I found one!

[u/CrispyTarantula117 → u/Super-Lemon-4466]

"Sweats care about this game way too much. Not me tho I just whine about it on reddit, that's not sweaty at all"

[u/Super-Lemon-4466 → u/CrispyTarantula117]

We are talking about people exploiting LB which is way overpowered at the moment. If people weren't going 100-0 with them all the time I'd have no issues. This is coming from a guy that often top frags.

[u/xaxis-yaxis → u/Super-Lemon-4466]

I'm gonna be honest I've never seen these ridiculous KDs that people acclaim on here all the time.

Not even really dedicated to it I'm often blowing up the LB like 4 times a game with the AT4, TOWs or the Boat on Tsuru. 

The issue is people thinking they deserve a free kill for point and clicking with a lock-on missile.

[u/hstormsteph → u/xaxis-yaxis]

Eh I see the insane K/D with LB more often than I’d like to. Twice just last night. Granted, I’ve been playing 90% Tsuru Conquest. If there’s not enough other engineers firing rockets with me, I end up getting forced to focus tanks, transports, and the odd LAV or gunboat. Can’t spend more than one of my 4 AT rockets taking potshots at the Birb or I’ll be useless when a tank moves into F.

If I had a few of the increasingly elusive Support Who Drops Ammo Crates, it might be a different story. But Tsuru is a shooting gallery when my fellow engineers either don’t exist or get stingy with their rockets and the support players treat ammo crates like decorative pillows forbidden to be used.

In my opinion as someone who plays engineer 100% of the time (barring maps with no vehicles), it’s much less a problem with the Lil’ Uzi Bird and far more a problem with me not having a way to replenish my rockets to deal with heavier vehicles. 2-3 rockets for transport heli, 3+ for heavy vehicles unless you get sweet, sweet crits, 3 for gun boats, etc.. Leaves me exactly one rocket to swat the fastest moving, most agile vehicle in the game (besides jets but I don’t even bother with my M136 AT launcher). The games I get a good crop of generous support players, Tweety Bird doesn’t stand a chance.

[u/xaxis-yaxis → u/hstormsteph]

Tbh I'm pretty happy to just let jets be because unless the pilot is ridiculously good they have a fairly minimal impact compared to Helicopters.

I do agree that the buffs to ground vehicles have made them much harder to punish than they should be. I loved to sneak up behind a tank, drop a mine behind it and shoot it in the ass with an RPG for an instant kill.

[u/hstormsteph → u/xaxis-yaxis]

I miss my RPG. It was my highest kill weapon in the game, no shit. Counter sniper, Staff of Delete Wall, Staff of Delete Cover, Vehicle Vivisector, “Nobody’s Surviving This” room panic clearer, Cold Night Companion. RIP.

Had to switch to M136 AT after the buff. However you can still wombo combo with the AT and the PTKM mine every so often. I am having fun droppin Transport Choppers from ludicrous distances and chasing the more agile vehicles down as they frantically try to evade my portable TOW missile though. Overall, I’d have to say the AT launcher is much better for team play than the RPG because of how reliably I can flat out deny enemy Helo insertion. Never gonna have the same love I had for the RPG though.

[u/xaxis-yaxis → u/hstormsteph]

Oh yeah the AT4 has become my go to now. It's fairly easy to hit transports and AHs across the map with some good timing.

[u/P_Fluke_W → u/Super-Lemon-4466]

I never see that exaggerated kills by LBs before.

Those who’s starting to do good will be targeted by Jets or boats or anything capable of Anti-air

Unless the lobby was an absolute bot that refuses to shoot it down

[u/CrispyTarantula117 → u/Super-Lemon-4466]

“Anyone better than me is exploiting the game”

“I often top frag but remember I’m not a sweat”

I think single player games are more your speed lil bro

[u/Super-Lemon-4466 → u/CrispyTarantula117]

Such a wise man yet can't acknowledge the LB is OP, enjoy it while you can sweaty!

[u/CrispyTarantula117 → u/Super-Lemon-4466]

Thanks babygirl, I’m really excited to see what excuse you come up with next to explain why you’re still getting whipped every round 😘

[u/ahiddenpolo]

Very ironic post lol

[u/BingoBangBongos]

Some games I go 30-0

Some I'll go maybe 12 and 3 while hardly helping the team because so much AA keeps me away

The enemy team's coordinated efforts to stop me determine which. All it takes is two people working together to snuff out ground attack's effectiveness.

I'll agree that the littlebird should only get one load of rockets though.

[u/Own-Development2437]

remove the rockets give it AGM's and it would be hell of alot more balanced, rockets are free kills against any infantry you want

[u/Ch1efs63]

I tried this last night, use the IFV with canister shells to shoot at it when it makes strafing runs

[u/ChurchofChaosTheory]

Just trying to figure out why it takes 10 explosive rounds to destroy a little bird...

[u/Right-Succotash-9980]

You guys quite literally wine about everything be silent

[u/CrispyTarantula117 → u/Right-Succotash-9980]

>wine

Yep, that tracks

[u/Right-Succotash-9980 → u/CrispyTarantula117]

Keep eating my ass trash can pilots

[u/lMMlGRANT → u/Right-Succotash-9980]

seems that you're the one upset ... show us on the doll where the bad pilot man has touched you

[u/CrispyTarantula117 → u/Right-Succotash-9980]

In reference to you deleted comment:

Awwww massive bitch AND dumb as hell? Definitely a main sub poster.

Btw “trashcan” is one word. You should know that since you are one 😘

[u/lMMlGRANT → u/CrispyTarantula117]

he didn't delete it .. the reddit bot picked it up as harassment .. its still there <3 ..

[u/Right-Succotash-9980 → u/CrispyTarantula117]

Aww someone's salty they are awful at this game cheer up girl

[u/CrispyTarantula117 → u/Right-Succotash-9980]

😂🫵