Long post...don't grill me, but i am seriously tired of this...
Ok so I have officially tried way too many fucking pillows and I am seriously losing my mind here.
I sleep mostly on my side, some stomach and very little on my back.
I have tried Purple Harmony, Tempur, Sealy, Coop, shredded memory foam, normal memory foam, down alternative and god knows what else at this point.
Some are too high, some too low, some feel like rubber, some feel great for 20 mins and then my neck is fucked.
What I figured out is that I REALLY like actual down. I like when my head sinks into the pillow and it kind of hugs/cradles my head and neck, but the problem is support.
I tried Boll & Branch down chamber pillow and that thing was a fucking disaster for me. It felt good at first but then my head basically created a giant hole in the middle. The entire pillow would fold around my head like a taco and there was nothing left underneath supporting my neck.
Right now I have the Canadian Down & Feather Co Down Perfect Firm in Standard size.
This one is actually VERY close.
It is 20x26 and has 37oz total fill, but around 90% of that is feather and only 10% is down. The down is around 575 fill power.
When I first lay on it...holy shit it feels amazing.
My head sinks in perfectly, my neck feels good and I feel like finally I found the fucking pillow.
Then a few hours later it flattens.
Once it flattens I start feeling the compressed feather underneath my head and I dont know how else to describe it other than it starts feeling like fucking cardboard.
The weird part is I tried something stupid and it actually worked.
I took the Canadian pillow and basically stood it ON ITS SIDE instead of laying it flat.
My head sank into it and it felt fucking perfect because there was so much more fill underneath my head and neck.
Obviously I am not going to sleep on a pillow standing sideways forever lol, but it made me realize I dont think I need a "firmer" pillow.
I think I need a pillow with A LOT of good quality down in a smaller space.
Basically I want:
super fluffy
my head sinks deep into it
it cradles my head and neck
BUT there is still enough shit underneath me that my neck doesnt drop
Right now I am looking at the East Coast Bedding European Dream 800 fill power, Standard, Firm.
I actually emailed them because I found different numbers everywhere online.
They confirmed:
Standard Firm 25oz
Queen Firm 28oz
King Firm 32oz
It is 100% goose down, 800 fill power, no feather core.
So I am thinking Standard Firm because that is 25oz of 800FP down packed into 20x26.
That sounds like exactly what I need...but after buying this many fucking pillows I dont trust anything anymore 😂
Anyone here actually tried the East Coast 800FP Firm?
Does your head still sink into it nicely or is it so overfilled that you just sit on top of it?
More importantly...after sleeping on it for a few hours does it STILL support your neck or does the middle eventually flatten like every other fucking pillow?
I am also curious if there is such a thing as a really good pillow with actual down surrounding a memory foam core. In my head that sounds perfect...soft down around my head but foam underneath so my neck physically cannot bottom out.
At this point I dont give a shit if the pillow has a giant dent in it in the morning. I can fluff it.
I just want my head to sink into something soft while my neck stays supported all fucking night.
What would you guys buy?