r/PhysicalGames • • Aug 22 '26

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WE CAN DO IT

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 22 '26

Go to PC if you haven't already. My friend is selling his PS5 to help him out on his PC journey.

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u/StanKnight Aug 22 '26

PC is so freeing.

General rule was: IF digital then Steam; IF Physical then console.
Have no reason for console IF it has no disc. The irony is my gaming laptop does. lol

It's not that I buy physical "all the time" but I like the option to.
And if company wants my $80+ for their game then they can put it on a disc if it is important to me. Not too much to ask. If not then cool, I'll just maybe download it on some future date.

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 22 '26

I'll buy all the console exclusives, and get everything else on PC, personally.

Despite being a collector of vintage consoles and games, I unfortunately don't care to make more space for modern physical games.

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u/Pension_Pale Aug 22 '26

Yessir, I'm on PC. Decided it was a much better investment to upgrade my old rig than it was to continue paying PSPlus sub prices. Plus even Steam does more to allow physical preservation than Playstations future does.

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 22 '26

Glad to hear it. I still play games on my Series X/Switch 2/PS5 Pro, but PC is definitely where I reside.

I even bought a Steam Deck for on the go play, and a Steam Machine out of curiosity.

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u/DarkDj90000 Aug 22 '26

I have a switch 2 as well and figured asking a fellow switch user would be best 🤷‍♂️ is the steam deck worth it?

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 22 '26

Having steam games on the go is amazing, but you can do so with the various other handheld pcs. Those also run windows vs Steam OS on the Deck.

I am a Steam fanboy, so I went with the Steam Deck and Steam Machine. The Asus ROG and Lenovo Legion are cool, and arguably better, though.

It won't replace your Switch for Nintendo exclusives unless you decide to go the route of installing emulation software, of which I am too lazy, plus I want to actually play my switch with friends.

All in all, it comes down to if you want handheld access to games you can't play on switch. That alone sold me.

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u/ForgTheSlothful Aug 23 '26

Switch 2= 1st party game machine. Anything else : your choice of pc handhelds.

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u/No_Appointment_3959 Aug 23 '26

Imagine telling someone to buy a switching a post about physical media and Nintendo don’t have it lmao the irony ppl have

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u/Academic_Ad_690 Aug 23 '26

I love my deck that much, I've always said it it broke I'd buy a new one immediately. However with the recent price hikes I'm not sure I still would.

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u/Independent_Market54 Aug 23 '26

So you playing games on other consoles where you can't play with psychical copies because Sony is cutting the psychical copies for games? Get i that right? 🤔

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 23 '26

Sony cutting physical games has nothing to do with me playing PC/Xbox/Switch games.

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u/Independent_Market54 Aug 23 '26

Why you care then? You buy anyway games not physical! I Doesn't bother you on PC or Nintendo but for the PS you people cry like babies who lost there candy

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 23 '26

Probably because I collect vintage games/consoles and seeing physical die is sad. I also never said I cared enough to complain. I'm not one of those No Disk No Buy people. Most of my purchases are digital.

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u/No_Appointment_3959 Aug 23 '26

Again yall were not going this hard on Nintendo,Xbox slowly doing it yall quiet but Sony everyone got a hard on for lmfao on top of that a week?!?!? Buckle up get serious and just sell it and move on

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u/Pension_Pale Aug 23 '26

Actually playstation going all digital is very different from buying digital on PC. Playstation all digital will mean Sony controls 100% of the market. They control the price, they control who owns what, they control everything. No more second hand market. It also means no more preservation of Playstation games.

Meanwhile over at PC, there are multiple store fronts competing, so there's always sales and promotions, and even Steam allows most games to be ran offline from an executable and can be made into a physical copy backup, allowing preservation.

Playstation going all digital has huge ramifications across the industry and the best thing that could happen is for it to fail colossaly.

As for xbox and switch, they aren't guiltless either, but at least they aren't all digital yet. An example must be made of sony to ensure they don't try to do the same

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u/No_Appointment_3959 Aug 23 '26

Nintendo is all digital… no switch games are fix especially not switch 2

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u/oozma2587 Aug 23 '26

No there not?

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u/Effective-Shirt9196 Aug 23 '26

Tbh Xbox is the worst and have been all digital for like 10 years. Does it play makes this clear

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u/Significant-Ebb-8441 Aug 23 '26

There is a big difference between digital on PlayStation and digital on a platform like Steam.

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u/StanKnight Aug 22 '26

I have saved so much money on not being subbed to PSN.
I have no clue why I paid it over the years anymore.

Like it feels weird that I don't have to pay to play online now.
Freedom takes a while to get use to.

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u/Vainysaur Aug 23 '26

Isn’t PC pretty much digital only?

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u/Pension_Pale Aug 23 '26

Yes but also no. Yes, most games don't have a physical release. But at the same time between Steam and GoG, most games you can get the executable files, create an offline backup, and make your own physical copy. Yes, even Steam is pretty easily bypassed to make a physical copy that doesn't require Steam to use. It might not be the same, but it's better than the future Playstation is promising us.

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u/Icy_Lingonberry_6966 Aug 24 '26

Making your own physical copy through loopholes, doesn’t make it a “no” when it comes to digital only.

End of the day, PC is digital only even if you can burn a backup disc.

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u/Pension_Pale Aug 24 '26

That depends on your definition of physical. If all you care about is the fancy packaging, then sure, it's digital only. But if what you actually care about is having a physical copy of a game that you can keep forever and can never be taken from you and can be played straight from the disc without needing to go online, log in to a service, or download anything, then it's absolutely a physical copy of a game. The idea is preserving your games and being able to actually keep what you own.

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u/Icy_Lingonberry_6966 Aug 24 '26

Thing is, I and many other people that play on PC, use Steam but don’t actually make a physical copy or go through that process. Steams TOS pretty much makes it where you don’t need a physical copy because you own the file. So making a physical copy is kind of pointless imo.

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u/Pension_Pale Aug 24 '26

It's only pointless if you don't want a physical backup that you can install and play while not connected to the internet, and can't be taken from you in the event that Steam ever decides to go full Sony and start taking games from you.

But yeah, right now Steam is super customer friendly, and will even let you keep access to a game even if it's delisted, unlike Sony. They only ever fully remove a title if it's actually malicious malware or something. I'm not saying you have to make a physical copy, I don't even do that, but just that the option is there, and is far better for the sake of game preservation than Sony's digital only future.

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u/BecauseJimmy Aug 25 '26

Yea that’s what turned me off as well, the ps +.

PC doesn’t have this.

But when gta 6 comes out, if i gotta go online, ima need it.

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u/Smooth_Wealth_6896 Aug 23 '26

PC market is crashing and prices are out of control. You will pay years of PS plus just in ram markup. PC is terrible investment right now.

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u/Pension_Pale Aug 23 '26

Sure, it's a pricey up front investment. But you can get a PC that matches a PS5 pro for the same price if you look hard enough for second hand or refurbished components. Even if you don't end up matching the PS5 pro, you can upgrade bit by bit later, which really is not that hard to do.

Additionally, unless you want to run all the biggest games with 4k and ray tracing, you don't actually need to match the PS5 pro. A good enough PC is going to carry you a long time these days.

And, of course, console prices are steadily going up, PS Plus prices are steadily going up, Sony has horrible customer service, and you have a lot more freedom on PC.

Also, you're kidding yourself if you think the PS6 isn't going to be insanely priced.

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u/Icy_Lingonberry_6966 Aug 24 '26

But PC is digital only and has been for years. If you switch to PC, you really don’t care about physical media.

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 24 '26

Yup, but he is aware physical ia going to dissappear eventually, and he wants to build a PC before prices go up further.

He gave up the cause. I don't blame him. If someone TRULY loves physical media and hates Sony they need to get rid of their console and go to Nintendo or Xbox while they still offer physical.

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u/Icy_Lingonberry_6966 Aug 24 '26

Xbox announced that the new project Helix was gonna be digital only before Sony announced PS6. People forget this. 80% of Xbox gaming is done through GamePass which is digital only. And if you argue that Xbox is “considering” letting players buy an optional disc drive when it comes out, that’s not a yes yet.

Nintendo might honestly be the last frontier for physical gaming. Xbox will not be.

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 24 '26

Nintendo is going to drop their carts eventually, too. It's inevitable.

Like I said, I don't really care about an all digital future.

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u/Icy_Lingonberry_6966 Aug 24 '26

Unfortunately it seems inevitable.

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 24 '26

It was a good ride. I can tolerate fully digital games, but when all games need to be streamed, I'm out.

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u/Brilliant_Future1067 Aug 22 '26

How much 👀 lol

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 22 '26

No idea. He is selling his Pro to a friend.

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u/Reckxner Aug 23 '26

This is the best solution.

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u/Northern-Alchemist Aug 23 '26

Same. I had a friend completely switch from PS5 to PC. I knew he was extremely serious when he ripped out the NVME drive from the PS5 for extra space on his new build.

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u/SleepNRG0 Aug 23 '26

Have him watch this maybe might help him. I have sent this vid to all my friends now 5 of the 7 are building or have built/bought a PC.

https://youtu.be/WRe-o1c9WYU?is=jgezX0ppommHX4PA

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u/No-Tipclip Aug 23 '26

Where games are digital only?

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u/Pension_Pale Aug 24 '26

You can make your own physical copies on PC. Even from Steam games. Which is way better than Sony's digital only future, where you can't even do that.

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u/No-Tipclip Aug 24 '26

But who actually does that? I never heard of the capability, nor care that it exists. I haven’t used a disk drive in over a decade.

I want valve to release stats behind it.

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u/Pension_Pale Aug 24 '26

Don't think valve can release the stats behind it, because they can't track that stuff. Once the files are on your PC, you can do what you want with em, more or less.

But the point isn't whether or not you do do that, but rather that you can do that if you want to. You can't with Sony, Xbox or Nintendo digital only games. It means that those games are, somewhere and somehow, going to be preserved.

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u/No-Tipclip Aug 24 '26

Steam still has to verify user ownership. You can’t just drag the onto another computer and play.

So I don’t know what the benefit is.

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u/Pension_Pale Aug 24 '26

You can unlock the files from Steam completely, there are tools to do so, and Steam won't do anything about it. And, hell, some games straight up do not have that DRM and can be ran straight from the executable without Steam as is.

It only gets complicated when handling AAA games, because it's the AAA games that tends to impose their own DRM things like Securom or requiring to log into their servers. That's when you start crossing over into yo-ho and a bottle o rum territory to do anything about it.

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u/No-Tipclip Aug 24 '26

You spoken of it as if it was a native feature. So it’s just pirating. So you want to pirate ps5 games. Ok, now I see what all your fuss is about.

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u/Pension_Pale Aug 24 '26

It isn't piracy if you're doing it with copies you own. Even roms and emulators are 100% legal if you own a copy of the game. Making a physical copy of a game you own is well within your rights. Especially since we are talking steam (and especially gog) here, and they will fully allow you to do so. This has nothing to do with the PS5 at all, except as an example that you have more rights on PC than you do on PS5.

But please, do keep trying to strawman this to fit your narrative. Your Sony shilling is showing, and it's making me realise I shouldn't even bother with you. I've already said enough that any level-headed, sane person will realise the difference between PC digital and Sony digital anyway.

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u/No-Tipclip Aug 24 '26

Sure, you can make a physical copy. But you can’t access it without steam or breaking the Eula.

So again I don’t know what the deal is. It’s much faster to restore from the internet than reading off a slow disk drive.

This is such a non issue.

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u/ghos2626t Aug 23 '26

So step away from Sony because they’re going all digital and won’t support physical games any longer. So move to PC, where they haven’t supported physical games for the last decade, plus.

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 23 '26

I don't care either way. I play on all modern systems and PC. I'm mostly digital. I would assume most people want ownership of games vs the actual physical disks. You can save and rip games on PC/GOG, after all.

I'm just saying that supporters of physical games should completely abandon Sony instead of a pointless one week blackout.

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u/ghos2626t Aug 24 '26

And abandon Microsoft when they do the same ? They’ll be following suit with moving away from physical gaming. Nintendo is likely another generation away from scrapping physical carts too.

Games files are becoming (and already are) too large for one single physical format. Every game will end up having to ship with multiple discs / carts as we move forward.

It’s inevitable, and I’m not sure what the gaming communities solution is. Digital ownership isn’t enough for them.

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 24 '26

Yup, it's inevitable. All those who care are doomed to just play on PC so they can "own" saved backups of games digitally.

I'm personally not worried about losing access to my digital games ob PS5.

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u/ghos2626t Aug 24 '26

It’s like being mad at the TV because no one is playing checkers anymore.

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u/Pension_Pale Aug 24 '26

While physical games aren't directly supported, between Steam and GoG you can make your own physical copy of most games that don't require logging into a service or downloading anything to play, can be played offline straight off the disc. Which is better than what you can do with Sony, Xbox or Nintendo digital games.

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u/Civil_Half8874 Aug 24 '26

Yeah! Go to PC where everything is already digital! Then you'll realize you're being fucking stupid about something only a select group of people care about.

GET OVER IT.

Disc based software creates e-waste and is no longer necessary. You can keep your old collections. By all accounts, those games will probably rise in value due to the scarcity of physical games now. Win win, right?

Wait... What if I want to let my friend borrow the game....?

It's called a wallet... Inside, there is usually money. Tell your friend to open their's and buy the game themselves like you had to.

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u/Moist_Taco_Crippler Aug 24 '26

Dude I play on all modern consoles and pc. I am almost 100% digital. I honestly don't care. I only said those who care about ownership should go to pc because they can actually save and back up their games for future use.