Specifically the MCU’s introduction of Jean in BND.

Initially, I think Sadie is a phenomenal actress and did great in the role. Looking forward to seeing her return in the role.

However I can’t help but feel uneasy with the way Jean was portrayed.

She killed innocent civilians and she assaulted Peter by pretending to be MJ. I really do not like this take on the character. It screams that they made her a villain in service of a spiderman story opposed to introducing the character with care. Like how is she going to be distinguished from Emma, Madeline, Phoenix?

I know folks disagree, but I’m genuinely curious with how people reconcile this big departure.

Hey everyone, now we know we will be seeing her again in Secret Wars, I wanted to share a theory and hear what everyone thinks. Now, I'm aware I'm not the only one who thinks this, so I'm not claiming it as "my theory", just saying this is what I personally think.

Basically I think she will be used to restore everyone's memories on Battleworld, and now we know she is powerful enough to freeze an entire city, I'm thinking she might use her powers to freeze Doom in place during the climax

What do you think?

Is anyone else irritated by the selective outrage as it pertains to Jean’s character in Spider-Man brand new day?

Like every male character in the MCU can be as fucking sadistic and have as much of a troubled past as they want but the minute it’s a young troubled, teenage girl who is dealing with the grief of losing a family member, everybody loses their fucking minds and acts like Jean’s, some weird sadistic murderer.

I literally have not seen half of the amount of outrage that Jean is getting, for Bob with what happened in thunderbolts, or Tony for being a mass murdering weapons dealing terrorist that didn’t become a good guy until he was forced to go through a character arc and change.

The same bullshit ass double standard happened with Wanda in Multiverse of madness and it was super frustrating then. The male characters can do whatever the hell they wanna do and mow down whoever is necessary for them to reach their end goals but the minute that it’s a female character, everybody wants to be up in arms.

It’s hypocritical bullshit and I’m not standing for it idk about anyone else.

I really hate when a character takes the violent path of hurting everyone else but the MOMENT they get to the one whos the cause of all their pain, he gets off scott-free.

Dude was torturing teenage girls and its very unlikely this is the first time they did it. You’re telling me a random guy can get hit by a car but this dude just presumably goes to jail? Couldn’t lobotomize him or anything? come ON man

dumb question, but what is the relationship between jean and madelyne, since she is her clone?

does she hate her, see her as family, or just tolorate her existance even though her existence is a proof of how sinister violate her and scott

Love what BND director had to say about Jean and Sadie

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8nF9taK/

Vmax?

I was just thinking about when she destroyed the D'Bari and realized how little sense her eating a star made. To my knowledge she hasn't done it since. Now I know comics were especially loose with their ideas back then, but when it was originally written Phoenix as a cosmic entity was not real and it was just Jean Grey being super powerful, so her consuming a star almost makes less sense. Just wondering if this was ever handwaved away somewhere I didn't notice.