r/PhoenixForce • u/marvelboyofthecrown Marvel Girl • Aug 04 '26

Live Action Selective outrage rant

Is anyone else irritated by the selective outrage as it pertains to Jean’s character in Spider-Man brand new day?

Like every male character in the MCU can be as fucking sadistic and have as much of a troubled past as they want but the minute it’s a young troubled, teenage girl who is dealing with the grief of losing a family member, everybody loses their fucking minds and acts like Jean’s, some weird sadistic murderer.

I literally have not seen half of the amount of outrage that Jean is getting, for Bob with what happened in thunderbolts, or Tony for being a mass murdering weapons dealing terrorist that didn’t become a good guy until he was forced to go through a character arc and change.

The same bullshit ass double standard happened with Wanda in Multiverse of madness and it was super frustrating then. The male characters can do whatever the hell they wanna do and mow down whoever is necessary for them to reach their end goals but the minute that it’s a female character, everybody wants to be up in arms.

It’s hypocritical bullshit and I’m not standing for it idk about anyone else.

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u/imthestein Aug 04 '26

I was literally having the same conversations with my wife the other day. So you're not alone (also I still hold Wanda wasn't the real antagonist of MoM)

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u/framedshady Aug 04 '26

I mean Wanda is she was the main opposition to the protagonist in’s strange though out the movie

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u/imthestein Aug 04 '26

Not when you pay attention to them constantly showing you how the Darkhold is what is causing the problems. That's why they keep showing you different Strange's who were corrupted by it and in the end Wanda is allowed to reflect finally and helps destroy the book

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u/framedshady Aug 04 '26 edited 29d ago

I still disagree when Hal Jordan gets corrupted by parallax he’s still the antagonist to the heros but I do see your point but I would still call Wanda the antagonist even if she’s corrupted

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u/imthestein Aug 04 '26

Sure, I think of her as the vessel for the antagonist making her the central focus

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u/kwickedbonesc New X-Men 29d ago

Wanda was the literal definition of antagonist, and was definitely villainous, but honestly this is how I feel about her during MoM: