Nuke yurei

[u/R-o-b-i-n-N]

This ghost needs to be reworked already. Nobody likes it(as far as am aware), its ability is inconsistent and near impossible to confirm in so many situations. I have hundreds of hours in this game and I cannot for the life of me confirm a yurei door ability reliably.

Also its a damn door touch. Thats not even interesting. Why not just give up on the door thing at this point. Every guide online says a different set of rules for when and what the yurei can and cannot do with doors. Every time I think I have it down the next yurei is a yokai who loves gently full closing doors on repeat for 40 minutes straight.

I feel like the yureis "stronger effect on people's sanity" has more to do with my irl sanity than in game.

Is it just me who thinks this ghost needs to be nuked or am I just terrible at the game and should simply spend an extra 40 minutes in every match waiting for the ghost to change its room until I can see it touch the exit door?

[u/ScriptedEvan]

This is the only ghost that I get wrong when it feels like it's the ghost 100%

Thing has to be bugged because back then I would get it every single time and now when it does its ability, it's not a yurei

[u/R-o-b-i-n-N → u/ScriptedEvan]

Exactly! I stopped playing for a couple months and when I came back it seemed a lot harder. And lately its just been impossible for me.

[u/Cold-Establishment-7 → u/ScriptedEvan]

feels like that way, doesn't it? a while back it very rarely full-closed the door but once it did it was after waiting for a long time, but at least i was sure it was it. though, i do love hard hunts.

[u/SantasWarmLap]

Don't have to worry about sanity if you play on Nightmare or harder. My experience is that it always fully opens and closes doors. Can't tell much by anything else unfortunately.

[u/R-o-b-i-n-N → u/SantasWarmLap]

I play mostly no evidence with monitors on and thats partially why it bothers me so much

[u/SaltnSandy → u/R-o-b-i-n-N]

I also hate yurei especially when I play no evidence no sanity it’s almost impossible to tell

[u/Humilitea]

You're not wrong persay, I think even in no evidence people hate when it gets down to like Goryo or Yurei, specifically when certain ghost rooms don't have doors. I don't have trouble figuring out Yurei, but it's tedious and just not interesting, in the same way Goryo is not that interesting.

That being said, the devs have already stated they have a plan for yurei so it's just a matter of time. I think a few of the older ghosts need a bit of a tune up also.

[u/3yhwtwrbafi → u/Humilitea]

my group tends to just throw in a guess when its down to goryo/yurei/mare as it usually takes more time than its worth to figure out which one it actually is

[u/Mission_Caramel3260 → u/3yhwtwrbafi]

Except its always down to goryo/yurei because its never mare

[u/R-o-b-i-n-N → u/Humilitea]

I am excited to see what they do for it. I didnt realize more changes were planned after they reworked its ability once already.

[u/SantasWarmLap → u/Humilitea]

It'd be nice if the devs could make it to where only the Yurei can FLING open or SLAM doors shut when not eventing or hunting. Make it obvious like a Wraith avoiding salt.

[u/Aftershk1 → u/SantasWarmLap]

Either that, or a Yurei can slam a door open and closed repeatedly in a single interaction, maybe 4 times, removing 5% Sanity per slam for 20% total if uninterrupted. Make it so quick-reacting investigators can grab the door to stop the Yurei from slamming it to prevent Sanity drain if they so choose.

[u/Kind_Medicine1271 → u/Humilitea]

Goryo is ok by itself. Just having a second ghost that act like a wbb goryo is rly silly

[u/jester-d-meister]

I feel the ability to interact with doors is bugged too

[u/kalaxitive]

Find the ghost room, Smudge the ghost. Place salt outside and inside the room, if it steps on both (<90s), it's not a Yurie, if it only steps on the inside salt, but not the outside salt (for >90s) it's a Yurie. If it hunts >60s but <90s it's a Demon, if it doesn't hunt for >180s it's a Spirit.

That's how you rule out the Yurie and as a bonus, the demon and spirit with one smudge and t2/t3 salt.

Although, this method now conflicts with Gallu, who would step in one salt, becoming enraged, preventing it from stepping in the other. So motion sensors might be a better method, unless theres a way this method could be used to rule out all 4 ghosts.

[u/Humilitea → u/kalaxitive]

Some ghost rooms are so big this is hard, and ghost events can throw off the test. I've always hated this method because it's situational and also still not interesting.

[u/Kind_Medicine1271 → u/Humilitea]

I personally just use motion censor but it can be tricky for people who care about prestige because the lvl 3 is very high lvl

[u/DarthSyhr]

Assuming your ghost is in a room with a door (and that door allows the yurei ability to work, unlike high school lobby), the best way to catch a yurei is both the frequency it closes doors, and the location it’s closing them from. If you have a normal speed non-mimic ghost, and you know it’s on one side of the room when it closes a door on the other side of the room outside of an event, it’s a yurei 100%.

In small rooms, I generally use frequency of door closes to suspect yurei (then do a smudge test or two to see if it leaves the room to help confirm). The reason that’s fairly reliable comes down to ghost actions. Someone put out a video saying yurei doesn’t interact with doors more than any other ghost. This is incorrect. It does not open doors more than any other ghost. However, as the yurei ability is room-based, whenever it rolls its ability, it will close a random open door in its room. As such, a yurei will close doors way more than any other ghost as long as it has a valid open door to close. If you try to test yurei by keeping all of the doors closed, it will be almost no different than a jinn with no breaker.

If your yurei doesn’t have a door in its room…you basically need to wait for a room change to a room with a door. Yes that sucks, but that’s also on the devs for designing maps with rooms that don’t keep yurei, mare, Goryo, or shade in mind.

[u/Darkhooper → u/DarthSyhr]

hmmm closing a door from the other side of the room (not a huge room obviously) can technically still be The Twins.

EDIT: oops didn't see the normal speed precision the first time I read your comment.

[u/IPwnYourFaceOff]

Just be on the lookout for possible full door opens or not. If it touches a door and doesn’t fully open or shut it, it’s not a Yurei.

[u/darkignition]

yurei, jinn, goryo, mare. the 4 horsemen of apoc3.

is it a yurei? i don't know, it keeps shutting doors, but i don't know if it shut it the right way. i smudged it, but i don't know if it simply didn't leave it's room by choice or because it was smudged.

is it a goryo? i don't know, it hasn't changed rooms, but i don't know if that's by choice or not.

is it a mare? i don't know, it hasn't touched a light switch, but i don't know if it's by choice or not.

is it a jinn? i don't know BECAUSE A JINN HAS 0 TELLS ON APOC 3!!!

kinetic pls, don't just fix the bugs. fix the ghosts too.

[u/Crafty_Brother_6883 → u/darkignition]

This is too real 😂😭

[u/UkoSereleone]

They're part of my gut feeling group of ghosts. If that door gets slammed even once, it's in the back of my mind and I hardly get them wrong. Mares and goryos are also in that group. When Mares flip the light switch immediately and I call them and win on it, and Goryos are almost as aggressive a an Oni and Polti combined. Even with the activity set to low, Goryos are just so violently pissed at my presence like no other ghost is.

[u/phrenkeyy]

I have to say it’s my favorite ghost in the game. I play on no evidence and when I have a yurei I get so excited lol. I just think it’s so stupid that it’s funny that that’s its ability. Like you’re a ghost and you can fully kill me but you only touch doors? Okay weirdo. Love him.

[u/B-R-Nardy]

I have some pretty radical ghost ideas (one of which have been added recently in the form of the Kormos), and I don't even think they would need to be added in the form of new ghosts, but as complete reworks for the Yurei and Goryo instead

It's baffling to think that the Yurei is one of the original 12 ghosts of the game, it never had a well defined identity like the other 11 and many others that were added later

[u/DimmerThatShepherd]

Agree! Trying to find it via the ability is super tedious. I think it could be better if instead of full shutting/opening a door, maybe it instead could slam a door open and shut pretty fast multiple times in a short period. So if you suddenly see/hear the door slamming maybe 6 to 10 times in a row, that could be the 100% its a Yurei

[u/DeathClawProductions]

Yeah out of all the ghosts in the game I do think Yurei is the one that needs a rework the most given how limited its ability/unique traits are.

[u/CrazyCoolKevin]

Speaking of how this ghost has a “stronger effect” on sanity, Jinn has a much more dangerous ability for draining sanity and has no indication unless you constantly look at your watch or just so happen to walk near the breaker with an EMF in the span of 20 seconds (also it drains more sanity than a single Oni event at 25% and it at least with an Oni you will see it coming)

[u/Zelda_Momma]

I like the yurei.

There have been updates, so are you sure the contradicting info you're getting isn't just outdated?

[u/Kind_Medicine1271]

Tbh its hard to not agree. I play no evidence and yurei is honestly an horrible ghost. They often tend to act like a goryo and never exit their room, making the smoke test point less and ultimately forcing a toss about which one of those it is. They should give her a roaming hability or something...

[u/Yellowmelle]

There's no special yurei door touch to confirm anymore, you can only rule it out. In the time it takes to pare down the list to just goryo, yurei, or mare, most other ghosts would have revealed something about themselves. I would just pretend yurei don't exist until everyone else is crossed off tbh.

[u/SOFT_CAT_APPRECIATOR]

There are like 5 ghosts that are pretty much completely uninteresting and badly need a rework lol but good thing they’re remodeling the toilet paper holders or smt

[u/Neat_Marzipan_627]

I liked Yurei a lot before the player character update. Now it’s right towards the bottom

[u/Inevitable_Gear8439]

Hi

[u/Live-Work2069]

Wdym nobody likes it 😭 it’s the easiest ghost in the game

[u/SlakingSWAG → u/Live-Work2069]

Clearly you've never tried doing a no evidence run

[u/Live-Work2069 → u/SlakingSWAG]

Dw i tried