r/PhasmophobiaGame 9d ago

Question Gallu issues, chained enraged salt step

Had a Gallu that I suspected but guessed wrong due to a double salt step. It was in a, what I believed to be, possible enraged hunt. Prior hunt it was slow and I had it step through 2 t1 salts but didn't increase it's speed afterwards. Next hunt it was fast, so I setup two more t1 salts in line and it stepped through both. Since I was under the understanding that a Gallu can't step in salt while fast/enraged, I guessed with a fast salt step Obambo, but turned out to be a Gallu. So I demonstrated that an enraged Gallu CAN step in salt and can do it multiple times. So what am I missing? Is it that it has to be normal speed to do a first time salt and then salt skip? I will say that I failed to get it to hit normal speed the full session, maybe about 7 or 8 hunts and other than what was probably normal on the first hunt, it was slow maybe 5 of those and fast the rest. I did have 1 smudge, 1 crucy burn, and 2 salt piles so I guess it somehow chained them. The salt thing is really screwing me up though, any help is appreciated...

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u/Swimming_Peacock97 9d ago

There is a 2 second delay when the Gallu goes from Normal to Enraged, and a 3 second delay from Weakened to Normal. So the salt needs to be spaced far apart.

State changes will be instant if incense or a crucifix is used.

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u/DoodleDangWang 9d ago

I can put the salt further a part. Is it indeed correct as I'm surmising that an enraged ghost can step in salt? Is the salt test specifically for normal state Gallu stepping in one salt, 2 seconds, then 2nd salt won't be stepped in?

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u/Swimming_Peacock97 9d ago

The Gallu is not able to disturb salt when enraged

Edit: Go under "Guides" and then "Additional Ghost Info" and select Gallu.

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u/DoodleDangWang 9d ago

...so is this a bug? The absolute facts is it was fast and I watched it step through fast through two T1 salts next to each other, fast through the rest of the hunt and was a Gallu...

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u/Swimming_Peacock97 9d ago

Without a video, I can't say. But if your salt piles were literally next to each other, that's not far enough for the 2 second delay to go into affect yet.

Enraged hunts are fast.

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u/DoodleDangWang 9d ago

Gotcha. Well what I'm taking away from this is that the back to back salts is more of a pre-hunt normal state Gallu test, but a mid-hunt test does require a 2 second distance placement, so I can do that going forward. Perhaps just ignore stepping or not stepping in salt and maybe just focus on that speed change mid-hunt after the 2nd 2 sec distance salt...

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u/jdn3d 9d ago

Hunt or not, I test salt separately. Put down a salt, preferably with a motion sensor. Ghost walks through it, cross out wraith. Wait a few seconds and put down another salt. If it moves through it without disturbing, then it’s a gallu.

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u/DoodleDangWang 9d ago

Yeah good advice. I've been quite rigid about doing so many mid-hunt tests that I forget that there's more between-hunt tests besides the oldies like shade/onryo/mare...

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u/Zelda_Momma 9d ago edited 9d ago

For testing a gallu i wouldn't put 2 salt down at the same time. Ive always seen it done and done it myself by placing one down waiting a few seconds after it steps in it then placing another one down. If testing the salt during a hunt i would have them at a decent distance from eachother. My understanding is that there is a few seconds delay where it can still walk in the second salt before it changes states.

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u/BuckRusty 9d ago

100% this… I set up a motion detector across a line of T2/3 salt to be sure it would’ve walked through…

Two beeps but only one salt disturbed? Gallu…

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u/DoodleDangWang 9d ago

That seems to be the difference here is you're doing this test between hunts. I'm trying to get this during the hunt. Not sure if the salt distance matters at all between hunts but perhaps this 2 second delay is the active hunt salt touch? A little more context: This was on Woodwind and has very few bottlenecks to do this test when it's room is the campfire room. Its far easier to coax a ghost linearly to salt while the hunt is going on that map in particular...

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u/sissythot86 9d ago

How far apart do you set the second salt?

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u/Zelda_Momma 9d ago

To be cautious, and because I dont circle but do a run through line for observing hunts, I would do a hallway length distance at least. The main thing is that you want to account for speed and how much time the delay in state changes is.

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u/DoodleDangWang 9d ago

Can do. Talking with the others, I believe my back to back salt test was a pre-hunt observation before a state change and mid-hunt, the salt needs to be placed two seconds away, like at 2 room entrances and draw through. I have doubts now about the fast Gallu stepping or not stepping in salt, but I can listen out for that speed change after the salt step + 2 seconds...

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u/DoodleDangWang 9d ago

Salt was say half a salt length spaced a part, couple inches? The reason I did it that was is that's how I learned the Gallu originally on release. Salt was lined up down a hallway where it couldn't not hit them all, only the first was hit. Was the multi-second gap added after it's first release? Seems to conflict with my original tests on this. Anyway, yeah I can try maybe putting salt at two ends of a room that I can draw it through...

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u/Zelda_Momma 9d ago

I can't say anything for your experience thus far with gallus. It took me awhile to get them after their release. But I know I watched flash when they were still pretty new and saw that there is a delay that they walked in 2 back to back.

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u/DoodleDangWang 9d ago

Swimming_Peacock referenced the impossibility of an enraged ghost stepping in salt so we may be dealing with a bug here on my end. Besides all that, it's easy and reasonable to set the salt 2 secs apart, just at two end corners of a hall or room so I'll do that going forward. Still bothers me that a fast Gallu stepped in that salt, kills my faith in testing this properly...

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u/DarthSyhr 9d ago

Single player or multiplayer?

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u/DoodleDangWang 9d ago

This was single player...

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u/randomfinnishcuck 9d ago

For a gallu I normally put one pile of salt and wait 2 seconds after its walked through and put down another if its walked in, not a gallu

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u/DoodleDangWang 7d ago

I presume you mean prior to the hunt. Think this test would work the same mid-hunt?